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Was reading the paper today and in the families section there was a big article entitled: COUPLES SURVIVE AFFAIRS. As I read it, there was numerous mention of Harley and also Penny Tupy from saveyourmarriagecentral.com.

Anyone ever hear of P. Tupy?

It was a good article and represented the view of the Harleys pretty closely. It was, of course, vague cause it had limited space to advise of the principles of MB.

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Tossedwave. I haven't hear ot Tupy. But thank you for giving the site you put here.
I'm sure you'll get some responses from the othes who've been here longer than I. Sorry about your H not wanting to make the changes. Prayer is a powerful weapon. Pray for God's will for your life.
God bless, LouLou

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Tuppy is someone who posts here on MB, under another name, but I'm not sure if she'd want me to reveal who she is. Maybe she'll reveal herself?

(Hint: look for someone who quotes Tuppy in her sig line.)

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Which local paper?

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Interest in knowing who P. Tupy is too! Am going to look on the site for the saveyour....!

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What paper was that? What day?

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It was Sunday's Poughkeepsie Journal....NY is the state.

Someone on DD board said her name here is Cerri.

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Someone on DD board said her name here is Cerri.

And tossed wins it!!! Yeah, Cerri's helped quite a few folk around here, myself inlcuded.

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Well she called me last night crying and asking why this happened to us, I had the girls, so she was missing them very much. I told her that we got to this point because I forgot how to open up to her and felt that she would look at me the wrong way. I explained to her that I'm working on figuring out how to be ok with myself and not worry about what other people think. I'm confussed why she would call and ask and also cry to me. She has decided to end the marriage. The papers are ready for my review and to be signed. After we hung up, I decided to have our oldest( age 6) call her back so she could chat with her for a minute and feel make my wife feel good. My wife was very thankful for having me do that and I think her made her relax. Today she is getting the papers, I'm unsure what the future brings, but I know I love her very much and want to spend the rest of my life with her.

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Here is the article in case anyone wanted to read it. I was going to make a link for it, but if anyone's computer is like mine (an absolute crapbox) it probably crashes anytime you try and move via links. So here's the article itself. Penny e-mailed it to me. Enjoy

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After the affair
BY KAY HARVEY
Pioneer Press
When Brad found out his wife was having an affair, he did what most of us would do. He got mad. Really mad.
But to save a marriage after infidelity, a growing chorus of voices says that's the wrong thing to do. Resist the normal human urge to become a raging emotional maniac, they say. It's the new way to resuscitate love.
If only Brad had known.
When he confronted his wife with the evidence of her affair, he shouted and told her he wanted her out. She left.
Now, he wants her back.
Can his marriage be saved?
SURVIVAL PLAN
Rather than accepting that half of all marriages will end in divorce, an array of books, Web sites, radio call-in shows, marriage-enrichment counselors and coaches are trying to help couples in crisis reignite the sparks instead of letting relationships burn out.
They point out that few marriages end purely because of an affair.
"Marriages end because the conditions that lead to infidelity aren't successfully addressed," says Penny Tupy, a Prescott, Wis.-based marriage and relationship coach who tacked on a subspecialty in infidelity.
Both men and women venture outside their marriages to meet needs that aren't being met at home, she says. Tupy has worked with Willard Harley, a Twin Cities psychologist, author of marital self-help books and co-host, with wife Joyce, of a weekly marriage-enrichment radio show. The couple is also behind www.marriagebuilders.com, one of several interactive Web sites providing support for couples threatened by infidelity.
The first step for scorned spouses who want to restore their marital love life, Tupy says, is coming up with a plan.
Her list of dos:
• Confront your spouse with what you know about the affair, derived from phone records, credit-card charges or other evidence.
• Talk honestly about how your spouse's unfaithfulness makes you feel.
• Express your love and your wish to continue the marriage.
• Tell your spouse you're willing to try whatever is necessary to be the partner he or she really wants.
• Insist on a reasonable degree of accountability for such things as time away from home and monetary expenditures.
• Ask that your spouse's contact with his or her lover stop.
• Ask your spouse to leave if the request isn't met.
Her list of don'ts:
• Don't ask, "How dare you?"
• Don't ask, "Have you lost your morals?"
• Don't ask, "Have you gone crazy?"
You get the picture.
EMOTIONS ON HOLD
The approach relies on rational, logical requests and acting on intelligence rather than emotions, Tupy says. It's a tall order.
"I coach people to try to put their emotions on hold. In many of these situations, it's a very difficult thing to do."
But when people do act on their emotions, it makes things worse.
Nine of 10 of Tupy's coaching clients are men. She attributes the gender imbalance to men's tendency to wait for marital crisis before they take action. And unlike women, many men feel they have no one to talk to. But sadly, by the time scorned spouses seek help, some already have made damaging mistakes.
Take Brad, whose wife took up with a co-worker. He and his bride had been married less than a year when she complained he wasn't a good listener.
"She said we didn't talk. We just watched TV," says the 29-year-old Web site designer, who asked that his last name be withheld.
He didn't think all that much about it until the night she tiptoed into the house at 3 a.m. It was the start of an occasional pattern, he says. But until he put all the pieces together, she denied having an affair.
"I knew something was up," he says. "We were talking less, and I could see she was unhappy. Then, I looked through her e-mails and discovered she was talking with a co-worker. I was shocked."
As do most people who learn of a spouse's infidelity, he acted first on his emotions.
Since seeking support on www.marriagebuilders.com, reading books and a series of coaching sessions with Tupy (www.saveyourmarriagecentral.com or (877) 416-2657), he subscribes to a gentler approach. He phones his wife regularly to initiate upbeat conversations — minus any mention of her affair, though it hasn't ended. He has invited her to come home and promised not to emotionally torture her again. Their relationship is "on hold," he says. He's not sure how things will turn out.
"I've told her I'm still here for her," he says. "I'm still her husband. The No. 1 thing I've realized is I can't change her mind or make her leave this person. The thing I can do is make changes in myself. If she comes home, she'll see the changes in me. And regardless of how our marriage turns out, I'll be a better person."
TAPPING RESOURCES
Women as well as men are finding support from the network of resources. Most who seek help are the spouse who's being cheated on.
A woman who posted a letter on www.divorcebusting.com tells of finding strength online while her husband carried on a four-month affair. It was excruciating for her, but she believes her calm, patient approach helped save her marriage.
"I found myself thinking about how he betrayed me from sunup to sundown," she wrote. "Then, it was a few times a day. Now, it is every three or four days."
It's not a subject she discusses with her husband, who has ended his affair. She has vowed not to bring up the past or to intensify his guilt in any way.
"Deep down in my soul, I knew from the moment he said he wanted out that what he really wanted was for me to listen to him," she wrote. "At this point, we are stronger than we've been in a long time."


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