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#1055155 02/05/03 07:28 PM
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As i read around the board, some women have picked up STS's from their H sleeping around. I'am not up on this but let me ask the question: If the man washes himself with soap and water how the heck can he pass this on to his wife? Is it oils in the skin?

Thanks for any information the experienced can offer. I know this is not a common Q for this board. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

#1055156 02/05/03 07:36 PM
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I'm not a doctoror a nurse but we learned about STD's in I think 7th grade. They are viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc. You can't wash them away with soap and water. They enter your body and your blood and that little unwanted gift is passed along to every person you have sexual contact with until it's treated and cured, if it is one of the curable ones

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Are you having an affair?

#1055158 02/05/03 08:03 PM
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Not me! I would never dish out the pain i went through, not even to my worst enemy. I'am just a curious mind. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

#1055159 02/05/03 08:22 PM
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I've fortunately, never had one. But wokeup, soap and water can't get rid of it. It enters throught the body fluids and openings. And many are deadly!
Only way to know is to get tested by Doctor.
Unless symptoms show up for different diseases.
That is one of the hurtful things about WS's when you learn they didn't use protection. Makes you feel like your own life matters not.
It's one thing to not care about theirs, but to put a S at risk is unthinkable to me.
And my FWH always seem to think because they were clean or looked clean, they were ok. NOT SO
He is so stupid to think the last one being an old HS Sweetheart couldn't possible have anything. Though he knew nothing about her last 43 yrs of history.
Clean doesn't mean disease free! Anyone jumping in bed with anyone but spouse is actually sleeping with every person in that person history and so on. So it's not just one person, but possibly hundreds!
Say OM/OW had 4 or 5 partners in their life time so far. And those had 4 or 5 and so on right down the line.
Sad but true!
If you suspect or worry about it, have wife and you get tested. It's the very least a WS can do for the BS.
God bless, LouLou

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just curious, I'am not worried about that. Just felt sorry for a post i just read. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

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I gave all the information to my husband who decided to have sex with another woman. He too, said the same thing, if he washed himself, it would go away. But not, STD is transmitted by body fluids. Even if they do oral sex, it is transmitted by oral sex, which is what my husband did, at least that is what he said. It is in the blood stream and is transferred by body fluids, and of course semen, and vaginal fluids. Her fluids can be passed into the mans mouth, and of course his semen can pass it into the womans mouth, or if they are into anal sex, that way too.

If you go to your health department, or local hospital. You can get all the information you want on STD and AIDS. Which is what I did. Cause my husband said, ohhh you have nothing to worry about. Well, he did, cause oral is as deadly as vaginal.

#1055162 02/06/03 12:29 PM
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scarey stuff, I guess i will go by the old saying
"you can look at the menu while you are out, but always eat at home" good advise. Didn't realize what trouble lerks out there.

That alone would keep me at home. I just feel sorry for the poor BS who gets these diseases without knowing, and did nothing to deserve it.

That alone is a MAJOR LB. not only dealing with broken heart but fighting a life long disease. Thanks for the replys, us , out of touchers, not on the dating scene, don't realize the dangers. God Bless... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

#1055163 02/06/03 02:43 PM
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wokeup,

Here is the best resource of STD. I test my self when I found out about the A, I didn't use our family doctor to avoid LB at that time. I am clean but OM has herpes and it scared the heck out me. Any little changes I run to the doctor office too many times and my family doctor had to kick me out and educated me about HSVx deseases. I am convinced that my ex has HSV1 ... she has unexplainable sores on her mouth. It had been more than 2 years now and I don't have it ... thanks to the Lord.

Soap & water won't do it ... any exchange of bodily liquid including blood are the source of it. Even with HSV, they don't need to have an outbreak to be contagious ... from the latest research. Use protection ... specially when WS is sexually active with OP.

-rh-

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Hmmm... the Planned Parenthood link overstates the effectiveness of condoms in preventing the spread of HPV and HSV. According to the CDC, they offer no protection. Did anyone else know that HPV is the most deadly STD for women? It has an extremely low fatality rate, but the infection rate is so high that more women in the US die every year from HPV-caused cervical cancer than AIDS. And condoms don't work.

And people think the abstinence movement is stupid?

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john ... Do you deep kisses with condom ? lol ! Is this the same CDC that told us that Herpes is safe w/o break out ???? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> until UK's research found out otherwise.

-rh-

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Had to jump in on this one--love to talk about anything medical--

From what I have read, the science behind condoms "not working" is this--latex condoms have microscopic pores, invisible to the naked eye, but large enough for the HIV virus to slip through (haven't read anything about HPV and condom effectiveness--plan to as soon as I post). Polyurethane condoms are more effective in preventing transmission of HIV. So it's not that condoms don't work at all, they're just not as effective at preventing transmission of STDs as most believe them to be.

Btw, I'm not a doctor or anything, just read alot of medical info.

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Also, regarding soap and water, just wanted to reiterate what has already been stated--during sex, the virus and bacteria enter the body and immediately begin wreaking havoc, even if the effects are not known for some time. Soap and water cannot possibly remove a germ that's already inside the body.


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