Guilty on murder
Gulity using deadly weapon (car)

Don't know yet about the sentence ... possibly life on prison.

Lesson for BS .... don't get mad, don't get even, revenge is not ours.

-rh-

Now I am going to show my ugly, un-Christian side. H and I were watching TV last year when this story came on. The reporter was standing in the darkened parking lot outside of the hotel and telling us she was reporting from the scene of this terrible tragedy. I muttered under my breath "no tragedy as far as I can see." H actually chuckled.

I am sure we all felt such urges but I am glad we didn't act on them and that we are all here trying to rebuild broken lives instead of further destroying them.

MJ

Or maybe - get even, just don't get homicidal!

Sean

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Like take them to the cleaner ... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> , my problem is I am the one who is brought to the cleaner ... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> .
-rh-

You're right rh, when you said the revenge isn't ours to take. I have learned through many life experiences that what goes around, comes around.

Still, I think many of us can identify with the feelings she had that day. Unfortunately, she let her blind fury carry her away. It's my understanding that they had two small children...guess who will be paying the price for this affair all of their lives as well???

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by broken x 3:
<strong>...guess who will be paying the price for this affair all of their lives as well???</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How about guess who'll be paying the price for this MURDER all of their lives. Divorce is sad, but somthing tells me it's not as painful as being an orphan.

What Clara did deserves punishment. None of us has the right to take somebody else's life no matter how bad they are. But we all the know the pain she felt. It tore her heart apart and caused enough damage for her not to think of the consequences of her action (killing him). Did she love her husband? We have to assume she did and if she did, don't you think a lifetime of regret is ahead of her? And what about her children? How must she feel about not seeing them grow up, not being with them? How must she feel that their kids will always grow up knowing their mother has been decreed a murderer and their father a cheat? For those of you who pray, pray for her children, pray for her.

After all is said and done, look at what an A can do. I am tired of this selfishness in this world. It is time to stop it. I feel for Clara Harris' kids. The burden they will carry for the rest of their lives and what, I ask, what did they do to deserve this?

At the risk of sounding simplistic:

People,
IF YOU ARE THINKING OF HAVING AN AFFAIR, DON'T.
IF YOU ARE HAVING ONE. STOP.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN BETRAYED, DON'T MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE BY TAKING REVENGE.

I don't think this about what an affair does, it is about what one crazed human can do (murder). Nor do I think she loved him, IMO love and murdering the one you "love", is an oxymoron (of sorts). She "loved" herself, and when she was thwarted in what she wanted (for her) she visited her wrath upon the one who was denying her. If she loved him, then so does every abusive spouse, stalker, and other miscellaneous obsessive personalitie who focus their obsessive nature (and oaccassionally murder) on the one they "love". I don't care how you slice it, murdering someone is one hell of a strange way to demonstrate you love them. I rather think loving someone is about setting them free, if that is what they want.

Lurking - did you see the movie unfaithful. This man loved his wife, admired his wife, and gave his life for his wife. She on the otherhand had an affair with an artist of sorts. He loved books. And it developed into a sexual affair. The husband hired a detective to follow his wife after signs were coming clear that she was questionably involved in an affair.

Pictures were taken of the wife and the OM together. Going to his apartment and not coming out till many hours later. Then the husband decided to confront the OM, and that is where you saw the change in the husband. He was a quiet man, a gentle man, a honest man, a trustworthy man, all of this was portrayed in the story. Then the affair, and contacting the OM at his apartment. And the hsuband seeing the gift that his wife gave to this OM, just set him off. He saw the bed that they made love in. He saw the room, and you could see a rage that overtook the husband. This was true for me.

When my hsuband told me he had sex with the other woman, after 6 months of discovering the affair, I was hurt. So hurt. I sort of knew deep inside that he had sex, and was lieing to me. But this is when the hurt came and ripped, literally ripped my heart in half, and the pain was so severe. I cried, and I called him a name, I can't remember what, but if I had a hammer, I might of thrown it at him. All I knew is I went outside and threwup. I threwup cause my stomach was so distressed, and I was hurting so much. I knew I wanted to believe that what he was telling me earlier that he didn't have sex, that he didn't see her naked, that he didn't touch her naked body was true. Then what came to my mind, was he lied, he lied, he lied. How could he do this, lie and lie. I was crying so hard, so upset, that I didn't care if I died, I didn't care if I never saw life again. I didn't care if I ever lived another minute. I cried to God, to take me now, take me away, take me away from this God D&mn place, take me away from this man who I gave my heart and life to.

I don't know much about this woman & her family. Cause to hear about her hurts me. I can't stand it, and it hurts to hear about this trial. I understand her emotional status, and if you have never been a BS, you really don't know what it feels like. But I knew that I loved my husband. I know that what he did, was so wrong and a sin. He committed adultery, and has sinned, and has done so many things in my families life, that he has really destroyed trust, and destroyed love.

I feel he is trying to show remorse and guilt. He seems to have simmered down, in his ballistic rage. He seems to be talking in a quieter voice, and seems to be listening more. Which is wonderful.

Don't just say she didn't love her husband. The husband on the movie, killed the Other Man. And when I watched the movie, I cried out loud in my bedroom while I was watching it, I cried out a name. And it was a sincere name, to mend my heart. This woman may very well of loved her husband very much. You don't know what type of a woman the other woman was? She could of been using her husband, like the other woman used my husband. She could of been trying to get his money. You don't know. The other woman was using my husband, for his money, and my money.

Talking to the counselors I am seeing, if this other woman my hsuband had, showed concern for our family, and was caring to my husband. She would of not used my hsubands money for her pleasure. Cause she didn't want to waste her and her husbands money on their naughty fun. And with this being my husband other womans 2nd sexual affair in her long term marriage. She knew exactly what she was doing. This has been stated over and over by the Harleys, both of them. The counselors I am seeing. I had a hard time believing them, but more and more, I am finding out that she did use my good husband. And she is a Devil in a fat womans blad headed body. She knew exactly what she was doing, and didn't care about me or my kids. And then she had the nerve to use my husbands wife to manipulate and coerce me with suicide if my husband and I were to tell her husband.

Anyways, give the woman benefit of the doubt. Maybe more evidence will come out, to prove differently. But ones emotions changes when a heart has been ripped without medication, and the pain is so severe, and it hurts like heck. Give her the benefit of the doubt. They had 2 young kids, and just look at the kids now. They have no father, they have no mother, at least one that can tuck them in at night. This is so sad for the kids. I would of at least given the mother the opportunity to have supervision rights with the kids for a few years. To have her show that she loves these kids, and what she did was out of ballistic behavior, not her, but what her husband did to cause her to lose it.

God knows the answer, and maybe one day we will find out the truth. But the poor children. All affairs, hurt familiies. Affairs, destroy families to the extent, that someone is destroyed deeply. I know, in my family, I was hurt very severely, and I know I would not wish this on my worst enemy. This is worse than death. At least death, there is an answer. Like my fathers terminal illness and dying during my husbands affair. I am now in post traumatics stress syndrome. Husband does not believe in it, and I am, so that is his problem. What I am doing now is trying to get out of this stress, and move into a better me.

Clara seems like a nice woman, and I would not condemn her until she has been proven guilty. And just think of her family, and kids. Oh Lord, please help Clara Harris and her family and children. These poor little children, that lost a father, to death, and now their mother to prison. Please Lord, help the truth come out. Whatever that may be, so these little ones can have a life. Look at what the kids are going to say at school, your mother killed your father. What a tragedy, what a shame, please lord, help this family, and help these little ones. Amen.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LurkingAbout:
<strong>I don't think this about what an affair does, it is about what one crazed human can do (murder). Nor do I think she loved him, IMO love and murdering the one you "love", is an oxymoron (of sorts). She "loved" herself, and when she was thwarted in what she wanted (for her) she visited her wrath upon the one who was denying her. If she loved him, then so does every abusive spouse, stalker, and other miscellaneous obsessive personalitie who focus their obsessive nature (and oaccassionally murder) on the one they "love". I don't care how you slice it, murdering someone is one hell of a strange way to demonstrate you love them. I rather think loving someone is about setting them free, if that is what they want.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Lurking,
No stranger than the WS saying I kept the A a secret because I didn't want to hurt the BS. If you do think that if you love someone one you would set them free, then why don't more of the WS hurry up and start the D, complete the D, give the family what they SHOULD have and move on? Why do the WS insist on having their cake and the rest of the pie? Yep, cake and pie all in 1 setting. And the family is just suppose to roll over and say....ok??

Now as to what Mrs. Harris did, killing is wrong. Biblically what she did is not wrong under the mosaic law but we are not bound under that law today. Even Christians......but adultery is punishable by death in the Bible and it is the family that would be the one carry out that sentence.

Of course we live in a much more lenient society so it is better to let the WS live but it should NOT be allowed to let the WS be brazen with the A.

So Mr. Harris couldn't seem to keep his pants on outside of his home....... then he should have stopped his double talk and been willing to give up all and lose his pants if that B..chy OW was worth tearing up his family for. Then Mrs. Harris would NOT have been put in such a position.

IMHO, the OW should also be tried for being an accomplice that led to this violent act. You know lurking how smug those OWs can be right????? You have had 1st hand experience on how OWs think they are OWED or OWN the WS, right?

L.
ps: by the way..... the idea of sueing the OW is beginning to sound real good.