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Susan,

I'd be happy to. I don't have time but I will later on. It may be tomorrow, though.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> How to "do" well, then. The answer is simple, and requires no emotional or intellectual thinking. It is no more than to act as who we believe we are. Always. You will be wrong, at least occasionally, but you will always be choosing well. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Interesting thoughts here...

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I'll be watching for your post. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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I would think that when given the gift on knowing what we have facing us is one of "those choices ...then we use all of the tools you listed pepper...

It is a great gift if it is a biggy choice and we know it...and we are even more blessed if we have some time to ponder it or find a way to buy time...

Gut reactions serve well and feel good...but in all honesty I think I have done best with the big CHOICES when I have the time to think it through....the other greatest gift are those angels we all know who can see something that we have missed over and over again...and make it so clear to us...

For BIG CHOICES I would always recomend consulting the angels...as well as prayer...

hormonal based choices are the worst..but a great excuse for eating chocolate....:)and if it's chocolate in bed...well that's even better... blame them hormones!!... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Is this at all the direction you thought this thread would go?

I printed out this thread. Hubby came home and I showed it to him. If nothing else, it precipitated a deep and interesting conversation between us.

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Susan~~~

"dat mus be" .... I am trying soooo hard to imitate that dialect we've talked about. Sel can "talk lik dat way" .... she's a GRITS gal herownself.

The reason you can't borrow my process going on in my own head is because it defines who I am, and you can't be me! (three cheers for that hip-hip hooray!) I am finding the underlying principle that will help me choose, a principle I can get in bed with and sleep well.

"Is this the reaction you thought thread would go?" .... NO, it's way better! I got SEL AND JAKE .... my buds~ I luv dem guys.

2TQ "How did I miss this?"

Beats me ~Q~ ... I started this damn thread talking to you in my head.

"If I chose now, it would be a choice based on my emotional reaction" .... so, ~Q~ look for the underlying principle of quality living that suits you to a "T-zone", and use that principle as your divining rod. Right now, you are choosing PATIENCE and WATCHFUL WAITING.

Jake Is squeezing your head a good thing?

Squeezing head is what I used to do to torture my brother <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ... while he pulled my hair. We love each other. it is a carry-over from my childhood. Take it as a compliment..... a painful/playful compliment.

Lord Jake, do you still have that poem about that bytch who told you to be a man and choose??? LOL! I made a copy, but I've filed it so carefully, I can't find it.

Arc^^ CHOICES define us by revealing our core beliefs. If we discover our core beliefs, and choose according to them, our souls are calm. And our ark floats. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

<small>[ February 28, 2003, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: Pepperband ]</small>

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The reason you can't borrow my process going on in my own head is because it defines who I am, and you can't be me! (three cheers for that hip-hip hooray!) I am finding the underlying principle that will help me choose, a principle I can get in bed with and sleep well. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I didn't want to borrow it ...and for goodness sakes, I don't want to be you.

I wanna get in my own Tempurpedic Swedish bed everynight (cause 'nothin sleeps better...) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Will it change who you are if you share what you are thinking?

Maybe I just want to know and understand how you are doing and what you are processing and follow along with how you get there.

Maybe I can learn from you and your experiences, knowing that your situation is not my situation and what works for you may not work for me.

That methodical and calculated Pepper is sometimes hard for me to intrepret. I know you are not trying to be elusive...it is just my ignorance.

Maybe I am just trying to be a friend. Maybe I am trying to love and support you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

We'll practice on that dialect later, ok 'din? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

(and I still have lots of 'puter lingo to learn, such as "pos" etc.)

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Faith1 said

Susan,
Are you feeling/saying something similar to what JD posted on this thread?? He looks back and realizes that many of his choices were made from emotions... and his point (I think) was that it is natural for us to be that way... especially when faced with crises.... and for us to realize that we should NOT beat ourselves up if we are ever emotional or irrational. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Exactly right Faith1. And, those who are new to all this should not expect to be capable of making all the best choices or even Choices when the emotions are running so wildly to and fro.

There is a process each of us must go through after all this starts, ie; d-day, simply to reach a point where we regain understanding of what our moral/integrety was in the first place. Not to mention what those things may become after d-day.

So, yes don't beat yourself up if you don't get what Pepper is saying. It is a growing process from d-day forward. And believe me, it takes longer for some of us to start to get it.

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Truth

Pay it forward?
PAY IT FORWARD?
P A Y I T F O R W A R D ?

The hell you did
You wanted my [censored] on toast
Someone was going to pay for all those tears you bled
For you and for every other woman like you

You wanted to stomp me like your boots were the sword of Damocles
A real man would choose, you said
Stomp
Choose
Stomp
Choose
Stomp
Smash me into the earth like a bug on a city sidewalk
Euwwww cry the children, grossssssss

The ice queen speaks, I said, I would rather eat **** and die, I said
But Nooooooo, you kept that hammer of truth hammering away
So just what was I before I was your brother?
A fat little piggy, waiting for slaughter?

You wanted to crack my nuts with your little logical nutcracker
A real man would choose, you said
Crack
Choose
Crack
Choose
Crack
Emasculate me like some ancient [censored] eunuch
Ewwwww cry the gawkers, he has no ballsssssss

I puked truth until I could puke no more
And then my heart just exploded, an alien blasting a hole where my chest used to be
I died and you laughed, hahahahahaha
I got your pay it forward

Listen, you she wolf in a shepherds skin
Give me another bite of that God damned apple

From a brother,

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I was wondering what took TootieQ so long to show up.

I've wondered from the beginning, is this thread really about YOU or 2TQ?

Can you, Pepper, make these choices in your present situation without basing them on feelings?

Maybe this is the real reason I want inside your head....how can you apply this to what you have dealt with the past two weeks? I am not sure I understand.

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WOW!!!!

That was sum kinna bytch!!!

I wanna hear the whole story to that!!!

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Pepper,
Thank you for this thread. I don't know how you come up with this stuff, but it helps me a lot to sort our my own mind.

I just hope I don't get a headache from thinking to much on a friday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I just hope I don't get a headache from thinking to much on a friday. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">oops

I KNOW what you mean....

Plus, I have been sitting here studying 13 quotes from Dell trying to make a choice/ choice about whether or not to order one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Hey Pep, your thread just got better -- I'm here! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Sel told me she came over here so I thought I would make sure you weren't being too wordy or mouthy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> I'm still cracking up from her post about you being vague <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Selly, don't you hate it when Pep makes you think?
What frustrates me more than her being vague, is that we write these long time consuming posts and she replies in one or two sentences and says 10 times as much as we did!

Jake, are you talking about a "faking it until you make it" attitude? Isn't that kind of what you did with Grace?

Pep - my prayers and hugs are with you during your difficult journey. I have faith you will make the right choices for all concerned.

JJ
p.s. Sel, put the little face with the moving eyes in your pocket <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Pepper:

"Beats me ~Q~ ... I started this damn thread talking to you in my head."

What the hell was I doing in there?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Susan:

"Tempurpedic Swedish bed"

Certified "SPACE" technology!!!

I just love that fake "meatball" emblem!

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jj, no, I am talking about testing your actions against your beliefs, and being sure that whatever you do, it is in line with those beliefs. Faking it til you make it is a combination of acting from belief and wu wei - actively waiting for inspiration. Or perhaps it is patience - whichever strikes first. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Susan:

"Plus, I have been sitting here studying 13 quotes from Dell trying to make a choice/ choice about whether or not to order one."

"Don't take the [order], you'll kill yourse..." (parody of a public service ad, if you don't get it in your area, I didn't want to alarm you).

I'm a Mac man, to the core! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">"Don't take the [order], you'll kill yourse..." (parody of a public service ad, if you don't get it in your area, I didn't want to alarm you).
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">HUH???? can you explain that please?

I don't know anything about Mac's and I'm way to old to learn. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What frustrates me more than her being vague, is that we write these long time consuming posts and she replies in one or two sentences and says 10 times as much as we did! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You're damn right, she does that now!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Susan:

"I don't know anything about Mac's and I'm way to old to learn."

That's the beauty of Macs. You just turn them on and get to work. (and if you need PC software, just get Virtual PC and run it simultaneously with your Mac OS and unix). ...have Apple and Connectix send large sums of cash my way for this plug!

Years ago, a friend of mine was in an argument with a bunch of PC loving scientists.

PC lovers: "Why would you want a Mac? Wouldn't you want something that is compatible?"
Friend: "Compatible with what? Certainly not the human mind!!"

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