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#1073396 05/16/03 09:39 AM
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Hi all, This is my first time posting my story. I won't go into all the details as my situation is like so many others.

My H had an A for two years. The OW is well known for having lots of married men and I guess my H thought he was special to her. I found out that they were having some kind of relationship in Feb 2002 but it took me another 8 months to get the whole truth(PA)out of him. Since then we have both been working on the relationship and have been doing very well, except for the occasional triggers. Good days and bad days.

He tells me that he never once thought about leaving me and that it was just sex. He brought her into our church and introduced her to me and then I began to see them flirt with each other. The A continued for another year until she ended it in the fall of 2001. She didn't feel right about it---after two years of feeling good about it. Not sure whether to believe that I'm getting the honest truth here---I think it didn't end until I found out about it in Feb 2002. Little problem with believing what I'm being told now.

The problem now is that my FWH is beginning to have erection problems. He can get an erection, but just can't maintain it. Needless to say, it sure does mess with my self esteem. My concern is that he is in withdrawal still. He says not and has even seen a doctor about it and they found nothing physical. Hormone levels are right on so I think it's possible that he is still mourning the loss of the OW.

We hadn't been to church since Christmas Eve until Palm Sunday as she has become very active in our church and is always right in front of us. I might add that she seems to find ways to put herself in front of us.

He had some of these same problems when I first discovered the PA but when our relationship improved, things got so much better. Now we start back to church and he starts to have these problems again.

He wants me to hold him and sympathize with him and I find that hard to do. He had no problem with her for 2 years but with me there seems to be trouble sometimes, 3 times a week.

Anyone out there who has had to deal with this.

Thanks for any words of wisdom on this.

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Part of the problem is that his continued contact with the OW puts his recovery back to day 1 every time he sees her. He will stay in perpetual withdrawal as long as this continues. That is probably why he can't keep an erection.

He is not in recovery if he still sees her. When an alcoholic is in withdrawal, everytime he has a drink he has to start over. That is what is happening every time your H sees the OW. That is why NO CONTACT is absolutely imperative. It is a shame, but you have to find a new church.

I would also STRONGLY suggest that he send a no contact letter immediately to the OW explaining that the affair was big mistake, that he loves his wife and would appreciate it if she would not contact him or make efforts to expose herself to his wife at a time when you both are trying to recover from this horrible mishap.

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This is an excellent article that you should read: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5060_qa.html

Some excerpts:

Never see or communicate with a former lover

Once an affair is first revealed, whether it's discovered or admitted, the victimized spouse is usually in a state of shock. The first reaction is usually panic, but it's quickly followed by anger. Divorce and sometimes even murder are contemplated. But after some time passes (usually about three weeks), most couples decide that they will try to pull together and save their marriage.

The one having an affair is in no position to bargain, but he or she usually tries anyway. The bargaining effort usually boils down to somehow keeping the lover in the loop. You'd think that the unfaithful spouse would be so aware of his or her weaknesses, and so aware of the pain inflicted, that every effort would be made to avoid further contact with the lover as an act of thoughtfulness to the stunned spouse. But instead, the unfaithful spouse argues that the relationship was "only sexual" or was "emotional but not sexual" or some other peculiar description to prove that continued contact with the lover would be okay.

Most victimized spouses intuitively understand that all contact with a lover must end for life. Permanent separation not only helps prevent a renewal of the affair, but it is also a crucial gesture of consideration to someone who has been through hell. What victimized spouse would ever want to know that his or her spouse is seeing or communicating with a former lover at work or in some other activity?

In spite of career sacrifices, friendships, and issues relating to children's schooling, I am adamant in recommending that there be no contact with a former lover for life. For many, that means a move to another state. But to do otherwise fails to recognize the nature of addiction and its cure.

Look at M.S.'s husband. Here he is, thousands of miles from his lover, and yet he still feels compelled to call her. Can you imagine the trouble M.S. would have had separating them if they had not moved? Their move was the best thing that could have happened to their marriage because it not only revealed the affair, but it also set up the conditions that would make ending it possible -- total separation.

We don't know if R.J. still sees his lover, but he says he has broken off all contact. In many cases where a person is still in town, that's hard to prove. But one thing's for sure, if he ever does see his lover, it will put him in a state of perpetual withdrawal from his addiction, and make the resolution of his marriage essentially impossible. In fact, one of the reasons he is not recovering after three months of separation may be that he is not being truthful about the separation.

How should an unfaithful spouse tell his lover that their relationship is over? If left to their own devices, many would take a Caribbean cruise to say their final good-byes. Obviously, that will not do. In fact, I recommend that the final good-bye be in the form of a letter, and not in person or even by telephone.

My advice is to write a final letter in a way that the victimized spouse would agree to send it. It should begin with a statement of how selfish it was to cause those they loved so much pain, and while marital reconciliation cannot completely repay the offense, it's the right thing to do. A statement should be made about how much the unfaithful spouse cares about his spouse and family, and for their protection, has decided to completely end the relationship with the lover. He or she has promised never to see or communicate with the lover again in life, and asks the lover to respect that promise. Nothing should be said about how much the lover will be missed. After the letter is written, the victimized spouse should read and approve it before it is sent.

How to Get Through Withdrawal

In R.J.'s case, his feelings for his wife are as bad as they have ever been. In the case of M.S.'s husband, he is suffering so much that he can no longer make love to his wife, something that had always come very easily to him in the past. What is happening to these men?

They are experiencing symptoms of withdrawal from the addiction they have to their lovers.

As soon as a victimized spouse decides to stay married and struggle through reconciliation, he or she usually sets out to meet whatever needs the lover had been meeting. If it was sex, the spouse offers more and better sex. If it was affection, it's more affection. Both M.S. and R.J.'s wife were willing to do whatever it took to regain their wayward spouses' love.

But it didn't work for either of them. That's because both of their husbands were in withdrawal. They were both addicted to their lovers and separation from them caused them to suffer from depression. That, in turn, made it almost impossible for their spouses to meet their emotional needs. So all of that love and care that was being extended to them was being wasted. Until they would recover from withdrawal, the efforts of their wives to please them will be very disappointing.

Withdrawal is the emotional reaction to the loss of something that gives great pleasure. It's similar to the feelings an alcoholic has when he makes a commitment never to drink again. It's also similar to the grief that comes from the loss of a loved one. A lover is like alcohol and like a loved one. Not only do unfaithful spouses miss what it was their lovers did, meeting important emotional needs, but they also miss the person they had come to love.

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I appreciate the reply. I was afraid that withdrawal was the problem and I hate to leave the church that I love, but I guess that is what must be done.

I'm not sure why I love this church so much as our Pastor certainly helped the OW by recommending that she become more involved in church activities---even teaches Sunday School if you can believe that. I can understand his wanting to save her soul but it is at my expense. Think he should have told her to leave the church for a while so that we could recover from all this but instead has bent over backwards to help her and offers no help to us.

This OW will show her true colors in the church as she really plays up to all the men. She knows how to make them feel like real studs and really doesn't have any female friends because of her behavior. I'm hoping she will self-destruct.

I had hoped being gone from the church for nearly 4 months would be enough seperation but obviously I was wrong. Thanks for your imput.


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