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If you can re member it, please re cite it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I donno .... maybe I said "self soothe" ....

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Pep:

From sungirl's thread:

"I have a problem .... and it's not pretty. I'm a snob.
And some long time BS posters .... I cannot post to them for the same reason. I don't trust myself to say anything close to helpful, because I don't respect the core of their difficulty.
I'm a snob. "

OUCH. ...but then you said "some". that's less than 50% of us, right? I might be in "most"? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2long:
<strong>Pep:

From sungirl's thread:

"I have a problem .... and it's not pretty. I'm a snob.
And some long time BS posters .... I cannot post to them for the same reason. I don't trust myself to say anything close to helpful, because I don't respect the core of their difficulty.
I'm a snob. "

OUCH. ...but then you said "some". that's less than 50% of us, right? I might be in "most"? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

-kid 2long</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">NOT YOU PINKY
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Pepperband: In answer to your earlier question:

No, I am not Maria Shriver Schwartznegger.

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Pepperband, my H has gotten on MB and read what I have written, so I have to be careful about what I say, but I appreciate what you are saying. I realize that I can't change Tom, I realize that an affair is about the person who made the choice to do what made him happy regardless of the impact on his chosen mate, I realize that a marriage is about mutual care or it is not a marriage....

We are right now discussing our visions of a happy marriage. It is interesting. It gives me the opportunity to discuss the present with Tom and not have him say that the problem with our marriage is that I cannot forgive him for past mistakes. The IC is very astute. It was Tom who thought we should go to her for MC, and I'm glad.

I have come to realize that that affair was a blessing. If it wasn't for the affair, I'd still be hiding abuse. The night that the affair came to light, lots of people found out not only about the affair but also about the broken arm four months before and lots and lots of other abuse. The affair ended a bad marriage. Now the question is whether we can agree on what a happy marriage is. The MC is holding her cards pretty close, but I think she knows the answer. She will let it unfold by asking the right questions.

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Do you want me to delete all my posts on your thread? I will if you like.

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Hi Pepperband, I have had a lot going on in my life lately but getting through it all and doing good. I am not a bit shy or reluctant to speak out or to talk with anyone in real life,but here in cyberland,on this forum,I am VERY reluctant to post but this is important.


I want to tell you that I realize how much I have grown and how far I have come since I first posted and you reached out to me. There were behaviors that I had that I had no idea was not healthy(especially for me) until I read here for a while. There have been some things in the recovery period that even the MC or IC does not address.Only here on MB forum have I learned some things.

I have learned to set better boundries.I did not realize that a person can be too good to their S or too kind and forgiving but I have learned it is possible.
It was not the same as being a doormat. It comes from some religious background teachings. It is not the same thing as described by Janis Abrahms Spring in "After the Affair" when speaking about "morbid dependency".I certainly have self respect and have always known and taken seriously that I have rights. It is a taught behavior of a loving nature that actually comes from the heart but can lead to being taken for granted. IC helped and I have read many books,most that were suggested on the forum,and learned a lot from them as well.

Anyone can learn if they will just read and read on this forum.

My sweet H and I are doing so great.We have come a long way. Our recovery is real. Many good things have happened for us and there are more good things in the making right now. We are watching some of our dreams come to reality and I am so thankful.

We have made it,Pepper. My H and I have a wonderful relationship and everything is in place for a great future. We have done some hard work and a lot of looking into ourselves and our relationship.

He still maintains that his A had nothing to do with anything lacking in me or the M. I can now accept that.I have read enough to understand it now.With circumstances being what they were, I was the one most likely to have an A. I did not.

Pepper,I want to tell you these things because you were a big influence in my growth.Not just from what you wrote to me but what you write to others and I read.I will remember your advice for the rest of my life. A lot of what you posted is of help in other areas of life not just in a M. I want you to feel good about the time you take to post here.I am sure you do not need my praises to feel good but I hope they are at least the double fudge topping on the ice cream. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
So my critique of your posts..... Keep up the good work.Your honesty is moving and your wisdom is amazing.I also like your humor. Thanks for everything. kk

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Pepperband --
I appreciate your offer to delete posts.

Actually, I have talked through with my H and the MC that I think separation would mean legal separation and the end of our M and so now we are discussing the definition of care.

It seems absurd to be doing this, but a decision to end the M is one I will need to live with for the rest of my life, so I am taking my time. He has not been physically violent for 18 months, but I believe that that is not the reason to stay married. I think the MC is doing a great job of bringing out the real issues, and it's not Sophia or the broken arm. I appreciate your posts. It's nice to know someone cares.

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Thanks for the messages ladies.

God Bless you both.

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I've been trying to think of a reasonable critique of your posts for some time, now, Pepper. I haven't been able to come up with anything.

I do have to ask, though. What's the source of your sig? It's... well, not exactly depressing, but it jolts me every time I see it.

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Just J, one possibility... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

She's a nurse!

Of course, knowing Pep, she probably leaves it up to us to intrepret. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

waving hi to Pep <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

Originally posted by Just J:

I do have to ask, though. What's the source of your sig? It's... well, not exactly depressing, but it jolts me every time I see it.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I change my sig line frequently. Usually my ear catches a phrase that I just like the sound of, or sometimes, it's some reason even sillier than that!

One of my favorite past sig lines:

Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with catsup.

Susan is correct, one of my patients said this to me during an especially stressful exam .... and I sometimes wonder about people who desire to avoid pain at any level, even when the eventual outcome will be hugely benificial.

Human nature is an endless wonderment. I love watching people. So fascinating.

His Suz .... I'm OK .... still watchful waiting about my Mom.

Love,

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Pep:

Wondered where you'd gone. Hoped it wasn't for bad news.

Hope you and the family are okay.
-ol' 2long

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