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#1101435 12/03/03 06:16 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I could use a little help and advice, especially from the BW's out there.

I was seperating from my wife and started dating another woman. I mislead the other woman and told her I was already divorced. Shortly after, I decided to try to work things out with my wife but the other woman and I remained friends and eventually had a short affair. We ended it but she got pregnant. I was not ready to deal with the situation and left the pregnancy for her to deal with- she wasn't able to go through with an abortion and I had never given her any feedback, advice or help regarding the pregnancy. I now have a little girl who was born 2 months ago and I have not met. I want to help with child support but my wife takes care of the finances and I'm not ready to tell her. I had a different affair a long time ago and I am terrified that when she finds out about this situation my marriage will be over. I know I can't keep this a secret forever. But what do I do about the child and how can I save my marriage?

The other woman moved out of State and I thought the axe would fall and she would ask for child support but she wants me to be able to work out my marriage and won't ask for any help. She's leaving it up to me. My first focus is my wife and our son. I was willing to give up parental rights for the baby because I know I won't see her more than once or twice but I also know that will put all the responsibility on the other woman. But I don't know how else to save my marriage. Any thoughts, comments or ideas are greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.
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There is a path to recovery, but since you did not take it after your first affair, you had another. It begins with honesty. If she divorces you, that is her right, but if YOU tell her about it, the chances are very good that she will remain married to you, if you actually get on the path to recovery this time. The honesty involved in telling her will be the first step. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You can recover. Many people have. It isn't easy, and not everyone succeeds, but as long as you are both working on it, your chances are close to 100%. If your spouse is NOT willing to work on your marriage because of your affair read What Are Plan A and Plan B? after reading the "Basic Concepts" links below. In that case, you need to start Plan A with the help of a marriage counselor (see item #2, below). The link assumes Plan A is for people who's spouse is HAVING an affair, but the Plan works to coax a withdrawn spouse back to the marriage, too. Your situation is harder, but your chances of saving your marriage and actually making it better than before are still good. But, whether your spouse is "on board" or not, you should do three things:

1.) Learn. The most important and helpful single source of information for my wife and I was “Surviving an Affair” by Willard Harley (hereinafter referred to as “SAA”) available at the Bookstore, Amazon.com, and bookstores all over. SAA is THE best book on the market for helping one get to the root of “the message of the affair” (BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THE QUESTIONAIRES!). It (along with the Basic Concepts section of this site) is also helpful for giving you a vision of what a great marriage should look like. The approach of SAA to this problem is that the best defense against affairs is to have a great marriage. My wife said we had a good marriage, but she still had an affair. She was kidding herself, but it was not until we read SAA and saw what a great marriage should look like that we could clearly identify the problem areas and had the tools necessary to fix them. So that you can get started right away, while waiting for SAA to arrive in the mail, read everything in the Basic Concepts section of this site. Next, read all the Q&A's on infidelity on this site. They are found at How to Survive Infidelity

The phrase “the message of the affair” is from the book “Torn Asunder”, by Carder (hereinafter referred to as “TA”). I personally think this is the best book on affair recovery we have read. In particular it deals with the two different paths the recovery of the betrayed spouse (BS) and the wayward spouse (WS) need to take, and deals w/ remorse in a way that I prefer to SAA. Read it together, if your spouse is willing. If not, go through it yourself. If you or your spouse has issues with control, you might also want to read “The State of Affairs”, (SOA) by Todd Mulliken, which also treats the remorse issue similarly to TA. SOA also deals with "the vision thing" for marriage, which is neglected in SAA.

2.) See a marriage counselor. This is hard. You need help. These boards are populated by amateurs. MC’s are professionals. There is a difference. They can help deal with issues the books don’t cover, and customize things to your individual situation. That said, there are lots of bad MC’s in the world. Read, and take to heart, How To Find A Good Marriage Counselor. You do not want an MC that is going to teach you how to live with an awful spouse, or how to adjust to divorce. Too many of them do, as is documented here: Hazardous Counseling. Reading that link may scare you off counseling, but it should give you some good ideas to ask a potential MC before you start w/ them, so you can avoid those that give you the wrong answers. You need one that is committed to helping couples have great marriages, and knows how to do that.

You wife will be on an emotional rollercoaster right now, and there will be times that she will think it would be best to just divorce you and go on with your life. Though there are no guarantees, recovery IS possible, but it takes time and effort. You will hate yourself if you don't do everything you can to make that happen. Give yourself the time you need, and don't give up. This will be the hardest thing you ever do.

3.) I understand that you may not be a person of faith, but for me, getting my spiritual life in order was crucial. As I said, this is hard. I knew I would need all the help I could get. Repenting of the habitual sins in my life let me stop pushing God away so I could hold on for dear life. I had to humble myself and ask Him what I had done wrong, and what I could do to be the husband He wanted me to be for his child, my wife. This was not about blaming myself. It was about doing what I could to do my part in having a great marriage. My wife could participate or not, but I had to know I had done everything I could do. It also helped me to let go of thinking about what SHE needed to do, since I couldn't control her, anyway.

You might also want to read through: WAT's Quick Start Guidelines for Betrayed Spouses, but keep in mind that these are the writings of amateurs. Get the books, read the articles, and see a GOOD counselor - you need the best help you can get.

Of course, that is just my opinions and what worked for me, who experienced it once, first hand. Harley, who has helped HUNDREDS of couples through this process, lays out his program in the following link: How to Survive Infidelity You will find that I mostly followed his plan. It works. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

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Any ideas on what to do about the OC & OW?

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Use the Policy of Joint agreement with your wife to work that out. If you want to send child support, fine, providing your wife agrees, but you should have no contact with the OW ever again. Perhaps your W can be an intermediary for any communication with her. Perhaps an attorney, or a trusted friend or family member. That is up to you and your W to determine.

Oh, yeah. Before you send any child suppport, get a DNA test done. Most of the time, women know who the father is, but not always, and there are LOTS of possible reasons for her to lie to you.

<small>[ December 04, 2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: johnh39 ]</small>


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