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here is just a part of what she said. "All I ever wanted was for him to be happy, not miserable and unappreciated by an ungrateful, insecure, immoral, uneducated, adulterous, wife (and I use this word loosely since you are-loose that is!!!!)"
I am really p*ssed about this! Not just at her but at him too because all he said to her was that she was wrong and that I am not like that. Lets compare: Me, married to the same man for 25 years, had 2 affairs 20 years ago (I explained my reasons in another post) HER, was married for 2 years but left him when she moved in with my husband. has had many strange men in her bed, has kids from different fathers, dresses like a tramp even though she's fat. spreads her legs for MARRIED men! and SHE calls ME "immoral" and Adulterous"!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
She said I was unappreciative and ungrateful, I don't know WHERE that came from! I have stood by this man through so much. I have been here with all of my heart for so long. She called me "insecure" She's got me there! After dealing with so many affairs that he has had, I AM insecure.
Uneducated, true I suppose. I was a SAHM and she is a college grad who used that degree to get a job as a bartender in a flea bag bar <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
I don't know what he said about me to her, but if that is what she thinks of me he obviously lied!
I don't know why I let her words hurt me but WOW do they ever hurt! She is supposedly mad that he "can't" be her friend <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> She also told me that she told him not to take me back Who the **** is SHE to tell him ANYTHING?! She doesn't think I have any right to say they can't be friends. I really hate this woman! Someone here (a WH "H" I think?) called his OW a "parasite" I think that's PERFECT! My H's XOW IS a parasite!!!
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Ok, before evaluating what i say look at how many posts, how long I've been here and what my 'initials' are.
Wanna shut the b1tch up?
Write back:
"I think it has been previously been made clear to you that we desire no contact. Please accept that.
It is hard for me to be angry with you when i see how easily fooled you were and won't try to explain it to you. I am his wife, you were his mistress. I am sure it feels awful to be lied to and treated like a condom - used for sex and then casually tossed in the trash - but he did that to you- not me.
Please do not contact either of us in the future and please respect our wish to be left alone to heal the damage his dalliance with you did.
I hope you will understand this - there is nothing flattering about being chosen as an affair partner.
Sincerely, Woman who beat your sleazy [censored]
(last line to make you laugh, leave it out) ....In short, namecalling just incites her, better to be honest and humiliate her with reality if you respond at all.
Here is a simple truth - when push comes to shove and a WH comes home? he chose an angry, vengeful woman who (temporarily) despises him over the woman who is on her best behavior to 'win' him over.
...making a guy's penis hard is no major achievement, building a life and family and overcoming all of life's problems? that is an accomplishment.
Let me say it again - there is nothing flattering about being chosen as an affair partner. Generally the WS chooses someone who is entirely not suitable to fulfill one need - be it conversation or sex make no mistake - the OP is used and lied to more by the WS than the BS is.
Why do you think 90% of the time the WS begs the angry BS for forgiveness and endures the consequences rather than running off to be with OP?
Why? because when the WS makes that decision they are more than likely still being selfish - not moral. They don't come home because it is moral, they come home because they know deep down that is in thier own best interest... OP? He'she is disposable, a dalliance and rarely respected.
THERE IS NOTHING FLATTERING ABOUT BEING CHOSEN AS AN AFFAIR PARTNER!
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I wish I could send her that, but the truth is she is the one that ended the PA. I guess he ended the EA since she is so mad that they can't remain friends.
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Bottom line?
She is angry and bitter because at the end of the day he picked a very justifiably angry you knowing there would be hell to pay over her at her best - no demands, no anger, hair done and makeup on.
Even the French judge knows who won this one.
Good for you - no need to spike the ball, go work on fixing the probs in your marriage knowing that despite his ENORMOUS screwup - he knows who the better woman is.
Did i mention that being chosen as a mistress is no compliment?
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Dear 2ml,
You are not the only one dealing wtih a pyscho OW. I dealt with one also.
Here's a sample of her e-mail dated back in Dec 2000.
OW: "Your voice message was so pretentious and pugnacious. You don't care about WS You know that you called the police after WS out of your vindictiveness for me. Even the police officers understood WS's description of what you were trying to do. If you keep crying wolf like this, no one will believe a word you say again."
Orchid: I recieved a call from the WS. He said he had nothing to live for and was going to end it all. I assumed suicide since he had also talked about it and his brother committed suicide a few years earlier. So i called 911 and they found him in a motel about 1 mile from my work. OW lives in another town but it was her idea to meet him near my work. YUICK. I was on the phone with the officer most of the time they were there so OW's rendition is quite different that the play by play I received from the police (she took off before the police showed up, called me from her house and sent me this e-mail). I even spoke to the police the next day and was assured I did the correct thing.
OW: What kind of monster are you? He has been trying to leave you for about a year now, and you keep holding him hostage. Smashing his computer, blocking the doorway, abandoning son to manipulate WS back to the house,throwing him out with nowhere to go, having little family pow-wows behindWS' back, seducing him against his will. He has never done that to you. So, what'snext on your path of destruction?
Orchid: I never abandoned my child (one day while WS was at home, I took a drive for 3 minutes around the block to calm down, son was 6 and watching TV, did not even know I was gone). I did not smash the oomputer (WS did). I did throw the WS out. He was being a jerk and deserved not to be in our home with his rotten attitude. Family Pow-wows were his family's attempts to help the WS. Seduce WS? I certainly was not into seducing the WS, he was smelly from the A as far as I was concerned. Path of destruction? Hm.... only path of destruction I followed was to destroy the A. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
OW: And, why is it that his father is always in his house alone with you? Why do you two spend so much time "alone" together?
Orchid: At that time FIL was picking up our son once a week due to a shortened school day. He would not accept $$ so I would make dinner for him that night. He lives alone so he enjoyed it. I was NOT having an A w/FIL as she sooo much wanted to imply.
OW: Yes, he told me today that you are the one who makes him feel suicidal. Before he met me, you forced him out of his own home,and made him crash into worthlessness. You are so evil, it is incredible to absorb right now. It's plain that you wanted the police to put him into the State's ward. It's hard to believe what an enemy you've become to both of us. All he meant to convey was that he knew what he had to do next in his life, leave you.
Orchid: WS left on his own. I did not throw him out until after d/d. As for commiting him, the OW sure gave me some ideas. Guess the OW thought she knew the WS more than I did. For a time, that was true. The WS was like a strange alien to his family.
OW: I think you are a cold person, who cannot feel, who only wants and wants and wants. Self centered and self absorbed in a greedy sort of way. I've tried to make WS love you again, tried to send him back to you five times, tried to pitch hit for you...but that was before we saw your true colors. You have no right to judge me as a "hooker" or "husband stealer" or "lousy woman" and write me HATE letters, and invade my personal domain unpredictably, when it is WS who cannot stand your presence.
Orchid: Now this is where the OW thinks she is some sort of saint. She wants credit for her sordid attempts to send him back to his family and accuses me of invading her privacy. Let's see, she is the one who send pictures of her body parts to his e-mail addy which I found because he opened it on our computer. As for the hate mail, I wrote her a letter appealing to her sense of reason (this was before I found MB and thought she had some reason).
I did not call the OW a hooker. I did accuse her of stealing an H.
OW: I've taken cared of WS with the quality that has been incredible for him. So, don't tell me that I am not supportive of his best welfare. I've listened to him, laughed with him, shared stories and our love for the healthier life together, beyond the time you've had a chance to prove yourself to him by. He will live longer with me, have true kinship with me, and a real friendship with me. I will not betray his trust the way that you had for the past few years. He'll go to college like he had always wanted to, that you didn't want or had yourself, (which I can tell from your three letters) and he will lead a promising life that he can be proud of, that affords him happiness and worth. You've been his impasse. You helped him fail in making his own business a success by never supporting his dreams. I cannot see why you think you are good for him. I know that you don't comprehend this kind of thing, and I don't expect you to. He has told me today that you are just as ignorant a person as he is.
Orchid: Here is where the OW tries to show she is better than the BS. In order to do so, she has to berate the BS and misquote the WS. Did the WS say I was ignorant? Yes he did. He said he told her he thought I was a bit ignorant when it came to installing a computer. When the WS read this he was angry because he saw all the places in this e-mail and others where the OW misconstrued the facts. Very common trait in the fog.
So that's a sample of 1 e-mail from the OW I had to deal with. She is known on MB as PBR (psycho babble rabbit). LOL!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
You are not alone in dealing with these nut cases. I survived and know you can also. Realize that you can't teach these OWs. Best to not deal with them and learn techniques to protect you and your family.
OW sent an e-mail to me last August. It made me angry but she did not get the pleasure of a response from me. I later saw her in court. She won an RO against the then WS but the WS had already broken it off with her and she was trying to be vindictive. OW called my work and home several times during that month and the next. But she could not get a rise out of me. Instead, the OW probably wonders to this day, when I will take action. She did say in the past that she felt she had to constantly look over her shoulder in case I was stalking her. I let her think that can happen. LOL!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
I was able to get the OW to LB the WS without lifting a finger. You can learn that also.
Psycho OWs are manipulative liars. Use truths and turn them into 1/2 truths and lies. Best not to deal with them. They will be their own demise.
take care, L.
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Y'know the differnce between the FORMER op and the light bill?
...You need to respond to the light bill.
FOW is just that - FORMER.
Ignore my reply suggestion - ignoring her is better. Don't feed her need for attention and don't forget what I said about being chosen as an affair partner :-)
...and get some rest
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She tried to say you were having an affair with your FIL? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> what a nut case!
2ofAkind, this stood out to me "It is hard for me to be angry with you when i see how easily fooled you were and won't try to explain it to you. I am his wife, you were his mistress"
She was SO easily fooled, as I've put together the pieces to this puzzle I find out that almost everything he ever said to her was a lie. Her relationship with him was an illusion, she did not know him at all! I told her some things that she chose not to believe. Someone else told her things she chose not to believe. She was not lied to in this by anyone but him!
I showed her a card that he had given me and asked her to read a letter that he had written me that explained what he was going through, in it he talked about how much he loved me and how hard my physical rejection of him had been but that he wasn't going to give up trying. She read the card and I could tell it caught her off guard, she refused to read the letter saying that it was "personal and none of her business" WHAT! scr*wing my husband wasn't too personal, but reading a letter he had written to me was? Truth is she didn't want to know because if she did it might screw up her plans and what she wanted.
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