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Wat- now didn't you know she was cloned and that was the OM twin from when they wher separated at birth .

SILLY YOU <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I like that one reminded me of this :
One night I go to where I thought they would be I see H and OW in his car and kissing . I did not confrint just them .

WAITED and drove up to the window and waved . SHE gave me the fingure and I was pulled away by a freind with us .

NEXT morning H called .

H: why did you drive away
ME : cause I saw all I needed to you are having an A .
H ; no stupid I told you I left because you are imagining that and I am sick of being accused of something I am not doing .
ME so who was that you where kissing in the car before I pulled up to window
H : I wasn't kissing anyone we leand over to change the radio and so did she it looked like we kissed we didn't
ME: so who is she , ?
H; my freinds girlfreind the guy in the back set
ME: There was no one else there
H yes he was at home getting money we where waiting
ME: so you kissed his girlfriend
H I don't have to tell you anything I left the house cause you are crazy

I called OW the next day and she said, she didn't want to get involved in this lie . I said, oh thats right cause you don't excist your my imagination .

HEAD ACHE anyone

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3 - PRICELESS!!! - aren't you glad we can laugh at this now???

OK, I'm making this one up:

Female BS: Where have you been? It's 7:00 am???? You've been out ALL NIGHT!!!!

Male WS: Yea, Babe, you wouldn't believe it. I was in an accident on Rt. 32.

BS: WHAT??? Are you OK???

WS: Yea, but the car was wrecked.

BS: It doesn't look wrecked!

WS: But, fortunately, the wreck happened RIGHT in front of an all night body shop!

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Don't make things up there may be an alien left around here and there . NO need to give then any really great belivable storys .

Silly man tricks are for them LOL

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WAT:

"More proof that there's only one, common Mothership they beam back and forth to. Arguments that there are multiple Motherships are, thus, incorrect."

There are somewhere between 100 and 400 BILLION stars in the Milky Way alone, and most of them probably have planets orbiting them. THEN, there are hudreds of BILLIONS of galaxies in the known universe...

...so, just why is it that there is only one mothership out there? Defies logic, doesn't it?

And yet, it's the case.

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'ole 2long - I couldn't agree more.

I should have specified only one (for the last few years) orbiting earth conducting research on human brains.

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Okay, this will be therapeutic to get off my chest!

Shortly after d-day - "OW needs reassurance that you don't hate her or think badly of her." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> (why would I???????)

A little bit later on - "If anything were to happen to our M (hmmm, like, say, your A????) I would contact OW to pursue a R with her UNLESS she was married." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> (oh, you two would have respect for HER M but not for OURS?????)

And of course, that old standby, "I love you but I'm not in love with you" (they must get this from the WS manual)

Guess he didn't say that many compared to some other Ws's, and he's better now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Deep cleansing breaths....

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The WS must be of the same breed that is all I can. There must be a WS fan club as they say the same things.

Just a few to add

She is not as strong as you.
I would rather hurt her than you if I am unfaithful again.
I do not plan to cheat on her.
I imagine that we will be together but living somewhere else.
There is nothing wrong with you/our marriage.
I don't think I could love anyone, I am not capable.
I want to make things work with her.

etc etc ect

It makes you sick really it does.

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I've laughed a lot at this one...

I told my H that it was hard to make sexual advances to my H when he was interested in another woman...

He said: "Interested in another woman??? What do you mean???"

Then when I just kept looking at him, the light bulb went on and he said: "Oh thaaaat"!!!!

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> yup....thaaaaat! but don't ever think that means he's actually interested in her...which -- actually -- is pretty true! The A was all about him, nothing to do with her really...

but it was still pretty darn funny that he said that, even at the time (although I didn't chuckle out loud! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> )

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Just like all scripts there is a last page .
That is after withdrawl and coming close to coming out of FOG . So here goes another funny.

A couple of days after N/C was done , H went to store for me , he took about 5mins to long (YA KNOW THE THOUHGT PROCESS >anyway

H; my cell phone was moved did you see it
ME: oh I moved it when I looked at it
H; Why would you look at my phone
ME cause I wanted to
H OH my god , I can't belive you don't trust me
ME : ( sarcastic) OH I am sorry , and you never did anything to make me dought you
H: No I never did
ME (looking him in the eyes ) That was that DAM 2yr dream I keep having , I wish I could figure that dream out

H: YOU are being wise ? YOU ,mean your not OVER THAT YET ?
ME : maybe tommorrow . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

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During my WW's Fog state, she said:

"The best memory I have with you in the last ten years was when you went to Florida without me!"

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OK, I'll play

Here are some of my WH's foggiest remarks:

"It's not an affair because we're legally separated" (signed legal separation papers after affair was going on for at least a year)

"OW has never asked for or accepted a dime from me" (guess he forgot he complained to me once that he fell in love with her first, flirted with her but she wouldn't start dating him until she got laid off... also, he cried to family counselor that if he got laid off he "woudln't have anything to offer" OW... AND he admitted to me once that he and OW were fighting and breaking up over her not wanting him to give his daughters any extra money to help pay for their skating competitions) OW's 'job' is home party candle sales, AND their make-ups almost always concide with WH's paydays (and then he's concidentally broke when they break up a few days later LOL)

"It's your fault - I had to start relationship with her because you wouldn't let me come home" (all he had to do for me to drop restraining order and let him come home was attend anger management program - which he refused to do)

Also, not only is the affair 100% my fault - so is every break-up they have... even when they were breaking-up & making-up more than once per week or times when I am not having any contact with WH.

He insisted the house my daughters and I remained in was too expensive and that we would need to move to an apartment... but when we decided we wanted to move to another state (partly because we can't afford to stay here without depending on extra money from WH) he insisted we could afford to stay in the same house.

"I had closure, had gotten on with my life, and was over you guys" (his daughters too?!?) just one week after moving out!!!

"You're too old to have sex... date... remarry"
(I'm younger than he is and look at least a decade younger than my age)

This is what he sais about his mother when I found out he had lied to her (claiming I was trying to force him to spend time with me or else he wouldn't get to see his daughters):
"She's a dumb old woman who's going to die soon anyway, it doesn't matter what she thinks"

"You need to tell them (our daughters) their feelings are wrong" and "Make it part of their homeschooling that divorce is OK" and "They're dumb punk kids and nobody gives a f*** what they think"

He's accused me of brainwashing our daughters against him (um they're teens and if I really knew how to brainwash teens I would be rich and famous). I asked him once how I supposedly accomplished this incredible feat. He said I made it part of the homeschooling and parenting to teach them that it's wrong to have sex with somebody you're not married to - so I "brainwashed" them and that's why they dont' like what he's doing.

He refers to the OW as his "friend", insists she "never wanted to be the other woman", and she's not breaking up our marriage/family, that I'm "trying to make her sound like a sl*t"

OH! I almost forgot - this one's a doozy:
He told me and our daughters that after the divorce there's no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to come over to our home every day after work and hang out with us all evening (just go to OW's apartment to sleep with her each night?)

And he said I should go along all day for Saturday visitation with his daughters (before OW put a stop to Saturday visitation with his daughters) because "the kids need to see us together"

If I hadb't come across the MB site and some other resources about how an affair causes the WS to say such fog talk, I would have surely dumped my WH and been convinced he'd totally lost his sanity.

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some of the newbies need to see this. I re-read it tonight and literally laughed out loud.

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Okay, I'm not really good at this whole plan A/B thing. Here are some of the foggese that I've heard...

"The hotel bills are for a friend who didn't want his wife to find them" (am I that dumb?!)

"If our marriage does work out I'll have to be on nerve pills because I haven't been happy in a long time" (you, what am I going to be on?)

"I'm only staying for the children"

"You are turning my family against me"

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The morning after D-Night my H said some BEAUTIES to me:

"Why can't I have a wife and a girlfriend?"

and my favorite...

"At least I don't beat you."

Wow, I was stunned when he said these nearly back to back...

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You guys are killing me! Here is my additions if I may:

WH: All of those cell phone calls are work related!

ME: Weekends, holidays, when we were out of town for fun, late at night???? Please!

WH: Those love letters you found aren't what you think - they were just an escape for me or fantasy. I thought you were so unhappy and I dreamed of a life with someone that I made happy. But it wasn't real!

ME: So references in the letters to conversations you two had the day or week before were just made up? You had a fantasy about having an affair with a married woman that has two kids and you discussed leaving your respective spouses, which would in effect destroy the lives of six other people that had nothing to do with this? Gee, I thought fantasies were about having wild sex with a handsome/pretty stranger on the beach with no worries.

WH: Well, when you put it that way it doesn't sound good! (DUH!)

WH: We have only had sex maybe five times and it wasn't that good because I felt too guilty.

ME: This has been going on for over two years and you only had sex maybe five times? If it was so bad and you felt so guilty why did you even bother doing it five times? Why not stop after the first time.

WH: I don't know what that email was with the subject line of "I Miss You" meant or was about because I can't remember. But I'm sure it was work related.

ME: Married women do not send married men an email to a private email account that their wife knows nothing about that says "I Miss You" and it is work related. Would you like it if I send my friend (name) an email that said "I Miss You!"

These WS's are just too funny sometimes aren't they?

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I have nothing to contribute since I was the jer-off WS, butI will say how much more ashamed I am than ever that I not only had an A, but LIED to my W for so long and even thought some of the things written here, without ever actually saying them.

Sadly, some of the LIES said while in the FOG are not really lies to the WS. I honestly believed some of the things I thought while with OW. Only after I ended it it, did I realize how lost and confused I was.

For all you BS who forgave your WS, you are a better person than anyone could imagine. I don't know how you do it. I have respect for all of you who can now laugh at the things that once caused you so much pain. The fact is, WS like me have nothing to laugh about. All we can do is continue to lie to ourselves.

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I'm still not sure that anyone can top this...

Setting: After 6 months of Plan A, and a couple months of Plan B---my wife's affair is crashing due to the separation AND fact that she's pregnant by the OM. I moved back home (back to Plan A), figuring the affair would burn itself out shortly.

In a fit of rage for her bad decision-making, she was discussing how mean it was of me to have left.

WW: "You know, it's YOUR fault that I'm pregnant..."

Me: "I'm happy to take responsibility for many of our maritial problems. But would you explain to me how you being pregnant is MY fault???"

WW: [silence]


Ahhhh, those were the good ol' days...

I hope Chris comes by with stories of soda and muffins... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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K:

Thankfully, my W had her 2bes tied before the A started 13 years ago, because she told me about 2 years ago that RM asked her if she'd have his baby. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

And though I haven't been blamed for an unwanted pregnancy, I am still being blamed for her A happening in the first place. Just the other night, 27+months after D-day, she said "it was such a simple request all those years ago to just spend some time with me, learn what I think, like, feel"... And so now, after 27 months of plan Aing her, sometimes poorly, but for the past 8 months probably pretty well, I can't get her 2 agree 2 NC when she doesn't even have any good excuse on the horizon 2 see RM again...

I'm apparently expected 2 either take responsibility for the A happening in the first place, accept that, because it lasted so long, they should be allowed 2 continue 2 be "friends", or figure out a way 2 2rn back the clock and spend more time with my W 13 years ago.

I feel very cyinical and pessimistic right now. Sorry.

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Well heck! Since K chimed-in, I'm gonna too.

Lemme see, there's so many .....

Setting:
H and I are separated, he left me for OW #1. While out, he cheats on his new found soul-mate with OW #2 [ONS], and got her preggers.

Flash foward some time later and he's telling me how it all happened.

Me: So you slept with this woman and you don't even know her, and she's pregnant from you?

Him: Yes, and it's your fault she's pregnant because you wouldn't talk to me.

Me: How is THAT my fault?

Him: I needed someone to talk to because OW #1 and I were fighting. So, OW #2 seduced me and took advantage of me and the situation, and it's your fault cuz I couldn't talk to you instead.

Me: <speechless>


And there's plenty more where that came from, cuz not too long later he got OW #1 preggers too. I have such awesome power, I can get females pregnant remotely without contact, AND I'm a female. LMAO!!!

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2long:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I feel very cyinical and pessimistic right now. Sorry.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, duh! You're on the receiving end of an affair. You have a right---and I'd worry if you're weren't feeling that way. Plan B will help relieve this situation somewhat, and it will (hopefully) hammer home the situation to your wife.

Jo: I may have to bow to the superiority of your situation. After all---you don't have sperm. It is an amazing ability for you to get an OW pregnant. And "you've" done it more than once...

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