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As usual--- I'm pondering! ... after reading here for the last few weeks, it seems as if posters are hesitant to post over in "Recovery Forum" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> . To "recovering" posters who continue to post in GQII -vs- "graduating" to RF, what are your main reasons for remaining on GQII (??!)... Is it primarily related to </font> - <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">maintaining established friendships,</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">fear of jinxing yourself,</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">uncertainty over whether you're in "recovery",</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">unclear as to who in "recovery" is actually recovered...</font></li>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Please feel free to share any comments or thoughts with me. I'd really appreciate the time and effort of your response! Hugs, ~Marie
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I've noticed this also.
I enjoy posting both places.
This board has more fun...
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All the above .
Not being sure your in "recovery " is a big one .
Also the people who have posted to ya along the way may tend to still only post alot in GENERAL .
So in away I guess you feel there up to speed with your story.
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Hi Marie - bet you didn't expect this response:
I'm "recovered", but cannot relate to being "recovered" in a marriage sense. The recovery board discriminates against recovered folks like me!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> So, I'm relegated to relating to folks struggling here or on D/D.
Now a confession: I've "cheated" and snuck over to the recovery board and lurked a bit.
Conclusion: being a recovered BS is a pretty good place to be. I think I'll stay here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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I don't think the Recovery Forum gets a bad rap...it's just that there are way more people still within the chaos than there are recovered.
This is afterall the GENERAL QUESTIONS board....so it's a place for EVERYONE to be...recovered or not.
I don't think or feel that I have or need a reason to post on GQ....I just can and feel like it.
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I consider us 'recovered'. I stay because of habit, because of old friends, and to help others.
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I was here when the infidelity forum split into different boards. I wasn't to be in recovery for another year or so. And when I was, nobody was in a like situation, getting to recovery 1 1/2 years post discovery after numerous D-days & separations.
It has appeared to me that a lot of the recovery posters go straight from discovery to recovery and then leave.
I'm sure there are exceptions, that's a generalization on my part.
So though I read & post there occasionally, GQII feels more comfortable and a better use of my experiences, advice & support. <small>[ April 30, 2004, 01:57 PM: Message edited by: Lor (Lor) ]</small>
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I usually just click on "» Today's Active Topics «" on the main forum page. I don't even look which forum I'm actually in.
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Marie,
The FIRST time I freqented this site was a couple of months post D-Day and I went straight to recovery because I was going to RECOVER, dangit! I was afraid to hang out anywhere else. I wanted to look only toward a positive future.
Then I faded away, my M backslid, and now I'm back. THIS time I hang out on GQII because I don't want to jinx my recovery, I'm not sure how to define "in recovery," and I'm getting kind of used to the folks here.
So I pick "d" - all of the above <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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ohmy_marie, my oh my oh my.....you asked so I'll answer, but my oh my oh my what a question <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
I don't post on Recovery. I sometimes, but rarely, read there--when I do it's just to see how others I have followed the stories of are doing. Why not, you ask......
When I went to In Recovery, I thought my marriage was starting real recovery or was on the brink of starting real recovery. I was told to go back to GQII because my marriage was NOT in recovery yet. Of course, I was welcome to come back when my marriage was actually IN Recovery.
I did go back--when I decided that I was going to be IN Recovery for myself, not my marriage. That would pass the "test" wouldn't it?? But, I found that I really wasn't ready to completely throw in the towel on my marriage. That left me in my previous position, I plain didn't qualify.
I didn't qualify for Divorced/Divorcing either--but no one there cares if you've filed yet or not or how far in the divorce process you are. It's helping me prepare for the reality of divorce, but to tell you the truth I would rather have been prepared for the reality of recovery even if it never happened. There is no way to explain what I feel when I read In Recovery and find people very welcome to post there when their situations are a lot less In Recovery than mine was--I'm happy for them that they are getting what I wanted, advice from successes on how to be successful--but it also makes me feel like crap so I don't read there very often even though I miss a lot.
Now there some kind of Reunion board. I don't qualify for any Reunion because I never graduated from anything MB.
I belong to MB Ladies. I wasn't invited, I found the address during one of my infrequent trips to In Recovery. It was posted to someone who lost the address but there was a general invitation to others in the post. Ok, so I knew it was for the In Recovery ladies (I never saw it in General) but I have a you-know-what so I knew I qualified <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> No one cared what MB board(s) I came from and I wasn't asked to leave. The only problem was with chat--I was asked to make a shorter name because LovingBoundaries was a pain to type out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
Aren't you glad you asked? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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Oh my! What insightful responses-- I HAD NO IDEA SOME OF YOU FELT THIS WAY!
I want to add more, and respond individually to each of you... will be back later <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> , as I'm off to mail a book.
Thanks for indulging me thus far, ~Marie
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Well I thought on changing boards, but all my cyberfrinds know I post here. Not a big problem if they got me "tagged" as I got them.
Also I think here we got more wise people who can help us in recovery, but that is my perception.
Also, well I don't really know if I'm in recovery yet (M), and when I tryed to post there in the past since I was separated at the time I was told I was not in recovery, so I'll hang here a bit more... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
Besides I like this place and I'm territorial LOL. It's good to have my place <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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I hesitate to call myself in recovery... maybe I lack a definite definition? or maybe I just don't always trust that I know where I am emotionally, etc. Is that the "afraid to jinx it" choice? dunno... also, there are just plain old more people that post here. I visit both places... but tend to go where there is more action! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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Gosh, this is just so eye-opening for me! Thanks so much for sharing your personal perceptions!
Pepperband: FUN IS GOOD <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ... would NEVER want to take that away from anyone!
3isacrowd : On not being sure if one is in "recovery"-- is there a definite (ie: Harley) definition on what constitutes recovery? Seriously (??)... I dunno the answer to that??!
I do, however, understand wanting to be around people who "get you"... it's hard to repeat your story over and over again <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" /> .
worthatry : OK, you got me! I never thought about people who were in the divorced category, yet considered themselves "recovered". Again, is there a specific HARLEY RULE that states RECOVERED, yet DIVORCED, INDIVIDUALS are not welcome in recovery?? I dunno about that either! I would like to think that you ARE WELCOME in RECOVERY <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> . Certainly, I would like to think that I would WELCOME YOU <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> .
Miss Priss : I find your assessment somewhat interesting... that people posting on RF are still in "chaos". Mind you, I'm NOT disagreeing... I just find it interesting that you posted this information. I'm also wondering if others have a personal definition of what "recovery" is(??)... or if there is a certain "something" that one thinks they must possess in order to post in Recovery ??! Again, I dunno (??!).
Personally, I don't care who posts in "recovery"-- as far as I'm concerned, y'all are welcomed!
As for having a "reason" to post on one forum -vs- another, I was simply curious why certain posters choose one forum over another (no more, no less).
hope4future : Awwww, HABIT... now there is something I UNDERSTAND. LOL. Old habits die HARD! Thanks for sharing!
Lor (Lor): AHhhh, yes! The infamous splitting of the forums... I remember it well. Lucky (I think!) for me, I joined approximately 2 wks following the split. As for "comfort", I totally get that-- especially due to the fact that you were "here" before the split.
Chris -CA123 : "Today's Active Topics"... hmmmm-- again, another OPTION I had not considered. Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
turtlehead : Oh!... finally!... someone like me! I, too, went straight to RECOVERY FORUM... although, over the years, I've been hesitant (VERY!) to call myself "recovered"-- due to the fear of jinxing myself! Glad to hear that I'm not the only chicken-[censored] gracing these forums! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
LovingBoundaries : Oh, my! How sorry I feel that you were NOT welcomed with OPEN ARMS on the Recovery Forum <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" /> <sniff, sniff>. Again, is there really any solid definition regarding "membership" in this "club" ??! I'm totally clueless, too, as I was very much NOT being met even 1/2 way by my WS when I started posting in "recovery". I was just pig-headed enough to BELIEVE that I BELONGED THERE-- despite what others may have thought...ohmy!
As for the "reunion board,"... I'm clueless?!. Although, I do post occasionally on the "ladies forum"... as far as I know, all female members are welcome. Please, feel FREE to post at any time!
ohmy_marie : thank you so much...hey, wait!... that's me... <JOKING... of course!>... NEXT.
matilde : No kidding!... I did not KNOW this about you... as I only "know" you from what I have read at the ladies forum. Well, shucks, again, I am sorry that you did not receive more of a WELCOME from the Recovery Forum. Me thinks we are allowing some potentially GREAT RECOVERERS to slip thru the cracks <woe is me!>.
captain's wife : For you, I have a personal story to share (but not about affairs!)-- I work with cancer patients and your name reminds me of one of the patients (and his wife!) that I have cared for. This particular Captain had been admitted several times to my unit but had never mentioned the fact that he was a Captain. Until one day, probably his fourth admission (??), I went to enter his room and he had a HUGE SIGN on his door featuring an airplane (looked as if one of his grandkids had drawn it... ADORABLE!) and a big sign that said, "ROOM OF CAPTAIN XXX !". Well, golly!... who knew I had been in the midst of such a GREAT MAN??-- I mean, I knew despite his "title" that he was GREAT, but this loving sign only confirmed that I was indeed in the presence of "greatness" <sigh!>.
Anyways, I digress.... so, you are the "captain's wife!"... how lovely to meet you! It is an honor to have you posting on "my" personal thread <and, yes!, I realize you are probably NOT the same "captain's" wife that I've had the pleasure of serving... wink, wink>. But, it's always NICE to share a story, no?!
As for "lacking definition", WE ALL LACK in something... and, I'm thinking "definition" is not the worst thing when it comes to "the lacking-in department" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> .
As for "personal trust"-- definitely work on that!... for who can you truly trust, if not YOURSELF (??!).
Thank you, so much!, to all of you! It has truly been a pleasure to read ALL of these responses. WOW! What an eye-opener for ME. As always, truly humbled by the responses!
Hugs, ~Marie
P.S. If it's not apparent, I've been working so much on MYSELF lately-- attempting to open up and to HEAR more of what others are saying! I, honestly, NEVER realized how much others needed to have their feelings validated... this "lack of validating feelings" was a MAJOR source of my H's withdrawal from our marriage and his search for "validation and assurance" from OW.
One of the BEST THINGS that I've learned from my H's affair is that we ALL NEED CERTAIN THINGS FROM OUR PARTNERS... and while what our partners deem as IMPORTANT may not be as important to US, our "dissing" a certain NEED is NOT a valid reason to IGNORE OR DISMISS what our partners crave and DESIRE (in order to feel loved!).
So, let's just say that I am attempting to "give more" of myself... that I am attempting to OPEN myself up to other POVs... because despite what I previously thought, I've learned that MY OPINION IS NOT THE ONLY IMPORTANT OPINION... there is a WHOLE 'nother person right here beside me (thank god for that!) that wants to be heard and VALIDATED.
Thanks for hearing me tonite. I feel somewhat "cleansed"... and, honestly, somewhat embarrassed... but, what the hell! LIFE ONLY GOES AROUND ONCE! ~M
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I have been in recovery for years, but I feel at home here on GQII. I know all the oldtimers here and feel at ease with them.
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Marie- LOL nope I'm not THAT Captain's wife... but sounds like you've got some great memories there, so feel free to transfer those good feelings my way! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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I went straight on to the recovery board when I came here because my A was over and H and I were determined we were going to recover.
I also go the "Todays Active Topics" section and seem to end up all over the place.
I post anywhere where a situation strikes me or a poster really strikes a chord with me.
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