Well WH came and wanted to talk last night. He starts by saying how confused he is. How he is treating her the same way he used to treat me. How some days he wants to try with me and others he doesn't. (All fog talk). well I am so tired of hearing it that i get a bit of an attitude. WH has moved back home with his parents and I knew was talking to OW on the phone. Well last night I find out that he has been going there. And he laughs when I ask about the sex part. Well I have had enough and I asked him to leave that i wanted nothing to do with him until he was done with her. He tells me he doesn't want her anymore, but he didn't start this way. I started yelling and LB, which he agreed with everything i said. Finally I kicked him out saying I wanted nothing to do with him. after sleeping on it, I am confused because i really do love him, but I am so tired of the back and forth games. I have done a terrible job of plan B, but he seemed to be coming back. He just came to pick up our D and was very rude to me. Which after last night I sure i deserve. Where do I go from here? I don't want him to think that I don't want him, even though i did say that last night. But i am tired of crawling back and asking him to give her up and be with me. I don't know, but I think I have shut him down and possibly made him feel doors are closed. Any suggestions on how to bring him back and willing to open up without begging?

H is also concerned that I will always throw the A in his face and never forgive. How can I forgive when it is still going on? I also attack OW last night. However he agreed to everything I said. Does it sound like I have a chance? He is telling how miserable he is. I am just so scared and confused

I don't want him to think that I don't want him,

so you are saying that having a lying cheating man with wife and girlfriend is better than having a spouse commited to fidelity...and remorseful of his infidelity....that that somehow it is an attractive quality....and something you would feel good about having...

and you still believe that you have so much power that there is something that you can do or not do that MAKES, CONTROLS or FORCES HIM to choose the OP over you...cause you have secret powers that can control and change others...

or is it possible that he will do what he chooses..
when he choooses..
and that you must choose and act for yourself alone....


Any suggestions on how to bring him back and willing to open up without begging?

well you might try

quit playing right in to the drama and crisis...
quit begging him and playing in to isn't it cool to have TWO women fighting over you...
quit talking to him at all when you are in plan B <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
quit focusing on what he is up to and doing or not doing and find yourself again...

you do not have value and worth in this universe only when HE values you...

Marriage Builder principles work when you follow them...not pick and choose like at the piggly wiggly aisle seven....

plan b means no engaging in fogged crappy speak...

plan b means you say ....spouse all this chaos and insanity you keep bringing to my porch...I'm done with it.....

plan b mean no contact plan and simple...

go dark........
or picture yourself in the exact same spot you are in this minute....next week, and the week after...plan memorial day...and the fourth of july...to be the same....

you can't control or change him or make him or force him..
but you can do for you.....

I don't know what else to tell you coolduck...

ark