At a public gathering. OW was there, looking her usual cheerless self. But she left hand-in-hand with a married man.

What could it mean? Probably nothing. But the possibilities are endless!

As I got out of my car, I saw her car whizzing past with him in it. On her way to her place? His place?

Probably to have dinner with OP and his wife.

But still...but still...but still...

you don't walk "hand in hand" with a man when you are on your way to have dinner with him and his wife. She's an "OW" this shouldn't surprise you!

Those who sit by quietly and allow this to progress bear some responsibility when families are torn apart because of it. If you know his wife, tell her what you saw.

"Too many lies." That's right. I shouldn't tell any. I doubt this meant anything, and it was very much public, in front of lots and lots of people. She made sure I noticed her, too. I'm certainly not going to fall into any traps!

Still, it's been a tough week, and I can use a little comic relief.

OW with an OP. Whoo-hooo!

is she still with your h? If she is I can understand why you're happy about this. If she isn't then her involvement with another married man is going to hurt someone else, nothing to be happy over (IF she is with him, you could be right it MAY be nothing, but really? How many men have you walked hand in hand with when there was nothing going on between you?

It would be nice if there was a way for you to find out for sure.

I just read another of your posts and see that your H lives with ow. Okay <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> I would be a bit gleeful after seeing something like that too!

But he's out of town! Kisses in the back yard!

LOL something tells me that your husband is about to find out that a low life s*** is a low life s***, even when he's with her!

well now, he got himself hooked up with a woman who thinks nothing of commitment or monogamy, a woman with zero integrity. Think this is gonna shock him? HaHaHa

what is it that Dr Phil say's? "if he/she will cheat WITH you, he she will cheat ON you" That is so true! Not just for the married affair partner. Any woman who thinks it's ok to f*** a married man probably thinks it's ok to f*** whoever she wants whenever she wants.

kinda makes me think back to what my h said when I asked something about his OW and her new boyfriend. he laughed and said "believe me I know P**, she gave it up the first night!" When I asked him what kind of mother has strangers sleeping in her bed with her children in the next room, he said "it's all they know so they will be just like her"

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> When I asked him what kind of mother has strangers sleeping in her bed with her children in the next room, he said "it's all they know so they will be just like her"
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Could our H's have had the same OW???? When I found out about the kids......I told H I could understand the OW being the way she was~ doing this....disgusting! but how could HE do that to her kids too???? Totally disgusting! I would never put my kids in that situation!!! That statement was HUGE to my H! He actually at that moment "saw" the picture and was sick by his actions and hers...(OW)
Blessings,
Atruheart

Ms Martin,

Anna Marie.

This is what the bible says.

Be wise as a snake and innocent as a dove.

Watch, and wait.

Prayers for you and recovery. I know that is what you want. YOU ARE WORTHY. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> And don't forget that.

What goes around, comes around. I agree with all of the above.

I would not say a word, I would just be nice. And if you do not want to respond to WS wanting to divide it all, so be it.

Stay where you are, you are doing great!!

Love in Christ,
Miss M

Thanks, Miss M & al. I think OW was trying to make a statement to me, and others -- but not an "A" statement. Probably more to the effect of "See! I have friends just like everybody else!" And she does, for a while -- one sees her with one person or other and then they disappear. She's a suckerfish, cling-y, and H is flattered by clinging, but can't stand it or support it. (My independence was an irritant, too -- heads you win, tails I lose.)

The man, an acquaintance, is pleasant but clueness, and not terribly together. I haven't seen him with his W lately, but he'd be silly indeed to screw that up, if it's still intact. (And OW did not look like a woman who was about to have an evening of fun.)

But it's a silly, self-interested thing for her to do. If she wants to be Caesar's wife, she has to move beyond misleading statements that serve only herself.

That's my take. But who knows? Maybe it's more.

Miss M & al., I did leave the message for him. Didn't want him to show up with a moving crew next week.

<small>[ May 20, 2004, 10:12 AM: Message edited by: A.M.Martin ]</small>

Well, A. M., my FWH actually was exposed by the married OW's other OP's wife!! (Oh, what tangled webs we weave...) He had reconnected with her after a 15 year hiaitus - the period he was with me - and she was still married to the same man, so he figured she'd be "safe" - no threats to expose or become more serious. However, he didn't count on her other lover's open marriage, and his wife's hostility that her H was being spurned by OW in favor of my H. Sounds like it's too tacky even for a soap, doesn't it? Anyway, the OW's OP's BS called this BS. I almost gotta laugh...

Sorry, Gayle, I can't keep track of that one. A three-dimensional diagram might help, perhaps? Like one of those models for complex molecules.

<small>[ May 20, 2004, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: A.M.Martin ]</small>

Oh, and he was so sure she was "safe" he didn't bother with a nasty old condom. And the other guy was in an open marriage, so I was overwhelmed with H's stupidity. After all, she only needed a phone call to sleep with him, and in the e-mails they sent afterwards, she revealed about four other A's. So I was in sexual contact - without my knowledge - with OW, her H, anyone he might have been with (no idea there) the other guy, his "open marriage" pals, HIS wife, and all her "open marriage" pals. This is a very long list for someone who's only had sex with one man for the past 15 years!

It could be they are setting you up too - to try and make a fool out of you if you react.

I think watch and wait is best also.


I read your replies on your other thread. You and I both know that you can't change those things for H. He is the only one that can fix them - though you could help if he would let you help.

Your comment about you - I fear my own tongue. I can be extremely caustic and *****y -- I don't know if I could control that in a conversation........ leads me into my next comments.

Many times the BS worries about what the WS is doing, where they go, what they do, what they are saying etc. None of that really matters. You can only work on you. You can only change you. If you ever feel like you are finished, then you can tell him that, but I encourage you to think about what you would still like to improve about yourself, and focus on that.

I hope you understand I am not saying you are doing a *bad* job, but many times it has helped me to ponder again what I can change, and what I cannot change, and work on things I can control.

I want to see you continue to grow -

What do you need to change the most?

You don't need to answer that one if you don't want to, but think about it. In the end, you can really only fix *you* and hope he responds. I have been working on fixing me for over two years now, and my W is responding.

I hope you have a really good day today. Please do.

SS

<small>[ May 20, 2004, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: still seeking ]</small>

Poked my head out of the foxhole of work I'm in. Turns out the married man has been approaching friends in a way that makes them feel he is "looking." And his wife was out of town during that time.

Honestly, I'm rather disgusted. I assumed I was joking about all this. The competition for OW, if there is one, is likely to "excite" H so that he can "fight" for OW, as he did for previous wife. Only people with too much time on their hands can play around with the poo-poo like this.

Also learned that H used a fundraising dinner to have OW read some of her "poems" among much more famous classical offerings. This is a howler. Not only is it in very bad taste, but it's an absurd abuse of his authority.

Back to my foxhole. It's cleaner here.

<small>[ May 24, 2004, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: A.M.Martin ]</small>