I just read what you are going through with your son. Please try to get him to focus on his 6 year old son.. if he does something violent he will go to jail, then what happens to his boy?

I understand how absolutely helpless and devastated he feels. Many of us understand that. I also understand how he can get to such a dark place that he's willing to do harm to the OM or even his wife. TIME is what he needs, time to cool off and think rationally. Do whatever you can to keep him there as long as possible. Since he doesn't have a car maybe you could come up with some reason you can't drive him anywhere tomorrow (I know that it sucks to lie, but his life is more important)

If you think he is serious about these threats, you can't just wait for it to happen. You have to do something, what I'm not sure, but something.

I tried to get him to focus on his son tonight but he wouldn't listen.

I can come up with some reason not to drive him but that won't stop him, he will just find another way.

I know he is angry, but I don't think that is the only reason he is saying these things. I think he feels like he has nothing to lose.

As far as there being another man, I'm not sure that there is, although there might be. This op I spoke of is someone she is getting drugs from. I tried to tell my son that is her choice to go there. She takes my grandson with her when she goes.

That's what got my son going tonight, his son told him that she takes him there with her and she makes him stay out on the porch.

I got so upset with my son tonight that I lost it myself. I tried really hard not to do that but I am not the strongest person myself right now.

I don't know what I will do when he gets up, I will try, he is not listening to me.

thanks