<small>[ September 25, 2004, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: pemberley ]</small>

I used Spector Pro and it worked flawlessly. There is no way to detect it. You can put it on "stealth" mode and you enter a code that you devise in order to look at the screen captures and IM conversations. You can have it forward all email to your own email address, too, also undetected.

Good luck.

~ Snow

I used Starr Home version and it is absolutely undetectable as long as you install it correctly. The way I made sure it was invisible was restarting the computer after I installed it.

When a little banner showed up upon restarting, I uninstalled it! I then reinstalled it FROM my desktop rather than from the download site because if you install it from the website, it defaults to the VISIBLE MODE. [when you start downloading, it will ask if you want to DL to disk or FROM website, click DL to disk and save it on your desktop] So, I reinstalled it in the visible mode [just click on invisible when it asks you during installation]. Then restart it to make sure.

Also, you have to pay for it and type in the code or it will show a banner no matter what. Don't use the trial version!

<small>[ July 10, 2004, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: MelodyLane ]</small>

I have also used Spector Pro, it is very well set up and I like the available options. BUT and that is a big BUT , there is NO program that is undetecable, but it would take someone that is VERY knowlegeable to detect on your hard drive.

I have downloaded and used the Starr Pro for some customers wanting to track their teenagers online activities. It asks you when installing if you want it to be totally invisible or display a banner. So it's pretty undetectable unless they know what they're looking for.

Pem,
I've uses Star. It is undetectable with one small exception that I bet is true with all of them.

When you look at the history you are "running a report." It gives you a choice of viewing the report in Internet Ecplorer. When you do that a log entry does show up in your Internet Explorer history log. It's called "report" which is very generic but if your spouse knows computers it may make him/her suspicious.

So either clear the history log or view it in the standard mode and not thru IE.

Happy hunting.

cwmac

<small>[ September 25, 2004, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: pemberley ]</small>

i too was wondering about this - i know about how to find the sites visited on the web - there's a folder on the hard drive that logs every site you go to, and every page you hit while there - but is the key-stroke and spyware different - can it give you more info - my spouse is not computer savvy - but i've noticed "accidentally" finding some sites that really make me question.

Pemberley,

1. Some Virus software WILL detect. Go to the spyware web site and check. Even if it says it won't, take some time to install and reboot your computer and run the virus screen to see if it picks it up

2.Again the answer is yes, maybe. AOL is set to stop spyware bots from getting into your system from outside and not from going out. If your spyware will send you a copy of all emails and keystrokes, there is a small chance that can be picked up by AOL.

3Most spyware records ALL USERS AND ALL USERNAMES KNOWN OR UNKNOWN.

This is why I recomend Spector Pro. ( I have no stock in it ha.ha)

Concerning virus scans:

I use Norton Internet and also now Spybot bc Norton doesn't get everything. Have had no problems. Most of the virus checks are written for very specific problems: trojans, adware spyware & malware. Starr and the other "affair detectors" are softwares that dn't cause the problems.

Some of the affair detectors in the deluxe (usually just used for businesses) form allow you to access reports from an offsite location. These will probably run into problems with the ant-virus softwares bc these softwares detect when a software is trying to access an off site server. There is a way to signal the software to always allow that server access but it's another step.

Mac

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by pemberley:
Okay, I have three more questions:</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">1) It is not detected by Norton or AVG antivirus and I have the latest of both of those programs

2) This is not the spyware that AOL is guarding against. It is a different thing. It guards against AD programs that are stealthily installed in your computer. Even SpyBot spyware and the AOL spyware has never detected ActMon [Starr]

3) yes, it records activity under both user names.