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#1159129 07/15/04 09:46 AM
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Last night she tells me that our D told her that "Daddy needs me to take care of him." Then she tells me that D was haveing a dream and was mubling " You've got to be kidding daddy. I can't go for a drive. I don't have any shoes on." Then she goes into TCO papers and she knows that I am not ready to go there. She wants me to put our current sit. down and this is not a agreeable term for me. I am pushing for 50/50, this does not work totaly for me but I will do what I got to do to make it work.
In avoidance to these questions I rreinforced that I am trying to work on our M. Then she tells me that part of her is not willing to give me up either. Then she says that she wants NC from me for a week or so. My mind is blown right now. With all of these qestions and the ever present A That is heading to NC to all apparents. With all the ploys that have risen recently is this a new one? What is her angle if there is one. Am I doing what I do best and reading to much into this? How can I keep us from going down the unhealthy road of TCO's and further sepperation? Do I let her have the NC from me? Will it put to much between us again?

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know, how will she have no contact with you? Will she leave? And why will she leave, where will she go? Is she taking your kids?

#1159131 07/15/04 05:21 PM
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What does TCO mean?

I get the sense that you're trying to analyze every current in the river. You can't do this. Remember, you're not dealing with a rational person. You'll just drive yourself nuts trying to figure her out. STOP IT!!

Plan A means that if she wants no contact, she gets no contact.

Her: I need my space. Please leave me alone for a week.

You: (sounding upbeat) OK, I understand, but whenever you need me for anything, just holler! I have some busy things coming up anyway! I'll wait for your contact whenever you're ready! Think it'll rain tomorrow? Me and D are going fishing!

#1159132 07/16/04 04:55 PM
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ML, Since last Saturday we have had several LONG conversations. Mostly about the A, but us and the kids as well. Last night was a prime example. I went over to her house and had dinner said good night to the kids and see them in a few days. (family reuion)So we talked about everything after that, witch was great!! Went home at 11pm and she called me cause I felt that we didn't end to good and we talked till 1am. This is what she is tired of. But then she has started a lot of this her self. (out of concern for me)
I think I missinterped myself. Her and the kids are going to Gradmas for 4 days, for a family reuion. They left today and be back Monday. She knows I wont call there in less it is important. So she is looking at this as a space giver that she feels she needs. Witch I agree on just can't seem to give. I feel confident that she is coming back as well.

WAT, TCO (Temporairy Custody Order)Makes me sick to think about it. Let alone talk about it yet. You have guided me well, took your last advice about backing off. (did the best that I could do any way) and things have really turned for the good. I actualy beat you to the punch on this one though. Told her that I had lots to do and that if sheeee need to talk just give a hollar. Gave her a hug and kiss and said se ya.

New stuff on the table though. Got a letter from OM's W. Saying that I have MISINTURPED a realy good friendship and that IF I had any HARD evidence to please send to her. This letter was typed and unsigned. She also asked me to stop calling her and to please leave OM alone. I have never talked to her and only onceto OM, 2 mnths ago. When he told me that they were backing off. NC since then none!!! Wont go there!!! Then today got a e-mail from their work corp. asking me to not shop there anymore for the safety of OM and employees. Have not been there for 1mnth either. Akward feelings.
WW is still speaking to OM and has spoken to OM'sW without him knowing. She admitted the A to her and then gave her my address. THANKS

Called her today to bring the E-mail to her and she is hot. Go OM!!

Family is family to both of us still.

Need to figure out how to maintain this NC with her though it is tough. We are talking so well it is addicting.

<small>[ July 16, 2004, 06:58 PM: Message edited by: knowtomuch ]</small>

#1159133 07/16/04 06:38 PM
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My gut is telling me that I'm getting railroaded. This will hurt bad cause I feel that we have realy made some great progress lately. Part of me says she is in on it and the other part dosn't. I hope I am not analizing this one to much. I need to find out if OM'sW really sent the letter or not. Is om running around lying to all three of us now. My WW has been pretty straight forward threw all this. I realy can't see her in it. (to low for her)She realy has not flat out lyed to me on the A and progress. Misslead a time or 2 yes. But she hated it when I found out.

Man to believe or not to believe that is the question. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />


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