Gc been following your posts abit, truthfully hoping to find a happy ending..wanting one myself you understand.

as a FWW myself I can say this ....... H4F and the others are so right....LISTEN!!!

When I was in my H hating mode he could have won the lotto, climbed a mountain bare handed and handed me the winnings with bloody fingrs, I would have taken them,,,,,,and then kicked him off and had a bet with my girlfriends how many times he bounced on the way down.......thats how I felt...I hated his guts. Now do you understand???

I was not particulary sane at the time, your Sparrow is the same I guess, in her own world, a very selfish world and she will come down sooner or later with a big thump!
If she is very very lucky you may talk to her then, but you may have moved on to...........her loss I'd say.

I was lucky in a way, my H was deployed when I went through this stage, I'm still fighting for my M, hes been deployed again so i sit & wait & hope.

Maybe going away with her Grandmother will do the trick, maybe not, but if you send these feeders to her, actually enabling the A, she will just take & take & not think much at all. You want her to start thinking.

So GC pls listen to H4F & others, they are right & its your best bet to get her back now.

Hey Weaver,

Thanks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Yep, it's true, I'm an early riser. It seems that no matter what time I crash, I'm up at the break of dawn. 'Course, come early afternoon... I'll be napping happily.

dewt

guess i'm the lone voice of dissention (sp?) here. there are many pros and cons to going to plan B but IMO you have to be at the point where that's all you think of and that you are convinced that is the best thing for you and not really be convinced by others that is what is needed in your situation. maybe people would call me a fool for continuing to do plan A in my situation but things will come to a head one way or another.

choices are being made for you and you have no control of those and do have to "react." but to me it sounds like you have lots of occassions or reasons to paint a good picture of yourself in sparrow's eyes and make her think of you and the M as a place to return to.

I hope you are doing a lot of praying about it. remember satan is a great deceiver and can do a lot of things to make us think something is good (say a PBL) and it's really not. just something to think about. i'm confident that w/whatever you decide it will be the best for you. just don't act on anything based on how you are feeling when you happened to be on the forums. always chew on everything for awhile. continued prayers to you, RR

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by graycloud:
<strong> The moon is just past new, the waxing crescent. I think. I've noticed it's been a pretty harsh week on MB myself. I think this is the phase of the moon when witches meet in the woods.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Someone sent me this link and I just couldn't resist.

We Witches meet in the woods, and in parks, and in houses and apartments, and in coffee houses, and in a myriad of other places at every phase of the moon. However, if one wanted to time one's marriage strategy to natural events we could talk about that. With Lammas and the Blue Moon right around the corner one could make a good argument for this being the time to harvest your good work in PlA - and for the moving to PlB as the moon moves from full and begins to wane.

Notwithstanding - the advice from H4F is superb. PlA done too long makes YOU the greater threat to the marriage as your ability and willingness to continue will inevitably falter. This is the thing I see day in and day out and that I can't seem to find a way to make real for people in your position. The affair will eventually end. Your wife will eventually wake up. She will want to come home and she will regret deeply the things she's done. The real danger is not the affair - ok, it's the big crisis, but taking it as a given - the real danger is the ticking clock.

It takes time for your wife to reach that point. You can speed up that process by doing a fantastic PlA - confront, expose, address your major LBers - and then by getting yourself and your marriage protected by getting into PlB.

If/when you hang on too long in PlA you create conditions that allow her to stay fog bound and you create conditions that eat away at your desire to save your marriage - and that makes you the greater threat. You will move on - say it's over - give up - leave- file for divorce or allow her to divorce you - before the necessary changes on her side have time to occur.

If I had one wish to send out to the fast approaching Blue Moon it would be that I would find the words or the wisdom or the ability to relay this very crucial bit of understanding to betrayed partners.

BB

C

cerri

I knew we had something else in common (other than posting on the same forum).

BB

Still

cerri:

I think that's the most lucid explanation of the factors/time frames at play here that I've ever heard.

-ol' 2long

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2long:
<strong> cerri:

I think that's the most lucid explanation of the factors/time frames at play here that I've ever heard.

-ol' 2long </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well isn't that a kind thing to say! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" /> I do, of course, do this all day every day so I hope I can be clear and succinct!

Still - how very cool. I know there are more of us around than are willing to come out of the broom closet. I've made it a personal mission to be out because fear and hatred can only grow in the dark. (hmmmmm..... there's a great analogy there to the need for exposure...)

I had a couple of very wonderful experiences at the Smart Marriages conference that were tied to being Pagan.

C