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I've already posted my story on another thread but I'd like to discuss my wifes reasons for leaving me for the OM. Please take into consideration that we have been best friends for 10 years and have had a happy marriage and one very much loved son. The reasons as I know them so far are;
'I love you but I have fallen out of love with you.' My wife told me this less than 24 hours after confronting her. During this period she admitted she still had feelings for me and she had not made a decision to leave me yet.
'It's not your fault... You've done nothing wrong' Again during the first 24 hours of confronting her.
'It's not one big thing... It's lots of little things.' During the one time I have actually sat opposite my wife since she left I asked her candidly why she left me. What caused her to fall for the OM. She recited the above reason. When I pressurised her and asked her to name some of the little things she replied; 'I don't know.... It's just lots of little things.' She couldn't name one specific reason for her actions.
'I felt like my life was in a rut.' I actually suggested to her that this might be some sort of mid-life/identity crisis. She agreed with me.
'If I'm honest with you I've been unhappy with (hubby) for a while now. I felt like a cook and a cleaner.' I read an email message to one of her online friends (long story, not snooping but similar) and this is what she told him. She has never met the person she wrote this to in the flesh, she is simply an online friend who communicates with him maybe 4-5 times a year.
'I was bored' This is what she told her mum which got back to me through a chain of mutual friends/supporters.
Opinions please. I don't know what I'm looking for here. Early days for me I know, but can anybody relate to my situation going by the reasons my wife has given me for leaving me? Please help.
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I can tell you that those are word-for-word some of the same things my WH told me. I think there may be a manual somewhere for WS's where they get these. From what I have seen here, those are pretty common reasons for A's. In my case, each one probably does have some merit which is why it hurts to hear it and why they can say it. Is it enough merit to justify an A or for them to walk away from a marriage? I don't think so. In my case my WH warped each of the issues he had by saying "always" and "never" and making things seem so impossible to overcome in his own mind to justify his actions. I'm learning that when I see him again, I need to really listen to what he is trying to say when he says those things and find the kernal of truth in them. They will lead to his real issues and therefore to what needs are not being met. Regardless of how true those reasons are she is giving you, they can be beacons to lead you to where the real work may eventually lie in working on your marriage. I'm new to this too, so I be totally wrong, but that is what I am trying to do when my husband gives me those kind of reasons for the A.
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Sounds very much like things my WW has said to me over the past months. The main difference with me is as I am a recovering alcoholic, she always had that to blame as well. Took me months to accept that I wasn't 100% to blame for everything that went wrong in our marriage. I have asked her repeatedly why she left and she doesn't have an answer. She said she loves me but she's not "in love" with me. I don't know what to say except you are not alone.
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My WH says the same things to me. He just stopped by to pick up our son for a few hours and said it hurts to much to see me. I guess he's feeling really guilty right now. I'm really trying to stick to Plan A but boy is it hard!!!!! Hang in there...we're all in this together!!!
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I love these threads... fog babble decoder 101.
'I love you but I have fallen out of love with you.'
I have the hots for someone else. But I am connected to you in ways that are not exciting right now.
'It's not your fault... You've done nothing wrong'
I am seeing another person and breaking my vows. Please don't let the fact that I am *boinking* OM make you feel bad about yourself.
'It's not one big thing... It's lots of little things.'
Like the little fact that I am having an affair.
'I don't know.... It's just lots of little things.'
Little things that caused me to break my vows and abandon my moral code... you know, the little things.
'I felt like my life was in a rut.'
I would rather be a cheating adultress than be in a rut
'If I'm honest with you I've been unhappy with (hubby) for a while now. I felt like a cook and a cleaner.'
And that's why I want to be a cheater
'I was bored'
And bordom corrupted my morals
can anybody relate to my situation going by the reasons my wife has given me for leaving me?
Standard fog babble. NOTHING new or different about what she has said.
Alien abduction.
Pep
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Pep, My thoughts EXACTLY!!! So true...alien abduction for sure!!! I'm really trying hard to look at my H as an alien right now also. He doesn't even make sense anymore. Strange!!!
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I've heard all those as well. Except now as time has gone by...WW has decided we rarely had a good day in our M. And that she was abused by me (have to admit to some verbal abuse, but have changed that habit/behaivor). I'm unable to do anyhting right, or rather have never ever been able to do anything right. We never should have married ... etc.
Not trying to be funny but I long for the days of "I love you but I'm not in love with you" Whatever that meant.
Pep as usual you are the best at translating the WS talk.
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I've heard all of those things. Be warned. She may start fabricating things about you soon to justify what she's doing.
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Thanks all for the replies. I look at the reasons my wife has given me so far for leaving a rock solid marriage and I feel like laughing. The trouble is they're not really reasons. I fully expect her to start fabricating more solid reasons in the near future if she hasn't done so already. I don't expect her to lie outright but I do expect her to take all of my faults and exxagerate them. I'll right down a list of possible future reasons for leaving me and we can tick them off if and when they are thrown back in my face as the cause of her total misery with me;
'You were an alcholic.' True I drunk almost every night. Usually one bottle of white wine and never before 8pm. I work in a nursing home full of elderly dementia sufferers. Each day was an adventure. One day I would be ripping the undergarments of a corpse in which rigor mortis had set in, another day I would be struggling to stop one of the residents from stabbing me with a dinner knife simply because I wanted to take his empty plate away. Every day I suffer appalling verbal abuse. I never went out to pubs because my family was my social life.
This leads nicely onto....
'You never took me out.' True again. Whenever I asked my wife if she wanted to go out for a drink she always said that she had got the days of pubbing and spending money down the drain out of her system. She much preferred to stay at home and watch a movie. Maybe I could have prevented all of this if only I had forced my wife to go out with me. Interestingly since she hooked up with the OM he has since taken her to a nightclub and she changed her profile on the adult internet site they met on to; 'Up until recently I would say a nice quiet local pub. But last saturday nite (OM) took me to (name of nightclub) and I had a great time..... Can't wait to go again.' Again of note is that when we were together we only had one reliable babysitter, wifes mum. Wife felt uncomfortable asking her mum to babysit all the time but now she has an even more reliable babysitter for half of the week. Me!!!
'You neglected our sex life.' True. In 10 years of friendship not one week went by without either of us making love. Usually 3-4 times a week. This naturally deteriorated back down to once a week when her EA with OM started properly. Still 2 days before I confronted her she was dressed up in all her finery waiting for me to get home from a 12 hour shift. I'm surprised she did'nt want me to wear a cut-out mask of the OM's face while we made love. Oh, and I forgot to say that in almost 10 years I always made sure that she orgasmed first before me. Such was my negligence.
'You neglected my emotional needs.' True. I always told her that I loved her and I was so proud of her and so happy with the life we had made for ourselves. When we took our son to school together we were the only couple that held hands all the time. When I arrived home from work I would always give her a big cuddle and tell her how much I missed her.
'You never helped around the house' True. I only redecorated every single room in the house to her style and tastes whenever she felt it was time for a change. If she wanted new furniture or ornaments I bought them for her. Simple as that.
'We never did anything together.' True. We only scoured charity shops and boot sales together. On my days of from work I would take her food shopping or shopping down town. I feel so guilty that some days I was just too tired to go out and had to ask her if it would be ok to have a day in.
'You never bought me anything.' True. I recently packed up her clothes because it was just too difficult opening the wardrobe door and staring at her possessions. Taking into consideration that she took a load of clothes over to her mums when she left I still filled 4 boxes full of her clothes and a couple of black sacks. I've got enough of her clothes to fill another couple of sacks. After clearing the wardrobe I counted my clothes. 5 shirts, 5 jumpers, 6 pairs of trousers and a few T-shirts.
'You never gave me any freedom' True. She was a full time housewife and mum and a damn good one at that. I bought her a pc and encouraged her to make friends so she could have someone to chat to during the day. Look where that got me. I also encouraged her to take up hobbies and showed a positive interest in everything she did.
Can't think of any more at the moment but I'm sure I will in time. I know that I'm as much to blame for my wife leaving me and I will figure out what I've done wrong in time. Just need more information from her.
*Please note that this post is very tongue in cheek <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> )
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