Believer, the other night Shul posted a prayer that god would destroy this relationship. If there is a god, then he was working in the heart of that judge yesterday, and is doing what he can to shake the will of these two.

(I'm sorry to qualify my statement with "if there is a god", but I have to. I'm trying, but I'm not there yet.)

So, so many thanks to shul and believer and everybody else who has thought of us this week. I don't know where my M is headed, but this A sure is getting rained on.

OM's attorney told car4love's attorney that the A has "cooled off" according to OM. I hope this is true, but based on some things I know, I don't believe it. I think OM is lying to his own lawyer.

GC

Believer, thanks for the encouragement and compliments. Not worried about getting another woman anymore, (have to admit, I felt pretty worthless in the beginning, and WW usually never missed an opportunity over the past 10 years to say nobody would want me. Now she says she was just joking. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> )

WW is still in contact with OM. He has moved from Vegas. Not sure if he is working now or just being a bum. WW took our computer to a technician who cleaned everything out.

She had been sleeping on couch for about two weeks and finally came back into our bed. I was glad, only because I wanted her to get a decent sleep. Of course she still wants me on the couch. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

GC,
There is a God.
OM is probably lying to his lawyer. I suspect my WW is also. Afraid my WW is starting to actually believe her own lies.

There are some new "discoveries" on my end but can't discuss them here yet. Fill all of you in soon.

Hey guys and lady *winks at Believer

Tom,
I know its some serious business or you would've told us already. I hope the new isn't too brutal, you've been thru alot already.

Gray,
Things are really coming along for you. I'm glad to hear the OM is getting what that [censored] deserves. I see your W coming back to you any day now. Did you ever get that roommate? What about the puppy?

So much has happened to me I won't go into it here, but my W just left about an hour ago. I gave her the Plan B letter today and she stopped by to see the kids and talk for a while. I didn't LB, I didn't waiver and guess what I'm not in the dumps. I posted a thread about it and if you get a chance stop by and tell me if I did okay. Believer feel free to hit me with a slab of 2X4's if necessary. If I did make any mistakes don't worry I can redeem myself Saturday when she visits the kids at her "scheduled" time. WOW! That sounded funny to say, strange I never would have imagined saying my W had to schedule and appt with me to see our children. What a rollercoaster! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Tom -

You are probably pretty beat down and your self-esteem is in the toilet. I hope you do get back with your wife. That being said, if things don't work out for you two, don't worry. You WILL find someone else.

I've talked to lots of men here. The ones that didn't recover their marriage were just like you. But when they were single again, they went like hotcakes. So try to ease your mind about that.

Check out the men (and for that matter the women) on the MB photo album. All these people will be able to move on.


Graycloud - So happy everything went well with the court for Car4love. Yep, have been praying for her (and you and Sparrow). And the funny thing is, you don't even have to believe for prayers to work.

Believer, it isn't that I don't believe. I talk to god and I pray for OM and the sparrow and car4love and my family and all my friends including all y'all. I just don't feel it, but I'm kind of starting to.

Car4love won big yesterday, but she was not at all happy about it. She felt she'd failed her DD because of the one overnight every two weeks the judge gave OM. But if OM can cut the marionette strings that the sparrow is tugging at, I think he'll come knock on car4love's door and throw himself at her feet.

FM, I'm way behind on your situation. I'm sorry about that. I'm going to try and catch up before bed tonight. And I'm awfully worried about Juke. He's too invested in the noise.

Hey Tom, thanks for the good words. Lying to your own lawyer is such a rookie move. I have some stuff I'm too nervous to discuss here as well. I don't believe anybody watches me, but it's too dangerous to chance.

I don't expect the sparrow to return. I don't think she has the strength to make all the amends she'd have to make. I expect the D to go through, and for her to come to me down the road when it's too late and say she made the biggest mistake of her life. But I still have a little hope. And I think I'm going to reach out to her again soon.

FM - my puppy fell through, and now I have to wait again. I can't get a roommate until I do some work on my house, and I can't touch the house until my future here is secured. I just have to try to get by until then. It will put me in some crummy debt, but that's the least of my worries right now.

Believer, thank you for this thread. I never imagined people I've never met would mean so much to me.

GC

GC,

I know what you mean about not feeling God sometimes. I felt that way a lot while my H was away, but then I sat myself down w/some scripture, talked to people on here, especially in the Prayer Request forum, and He would fill me again and give me the strength to go on. So don't beat yourself up for feeling as if He's abandoned you sometimes. Christ himself asked Him, Why did you forsaken me? when He was dying on the cross.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I don't expect the sparrow to return. I don't think she has the strength to make all the amends she'd have to make. I expect the D to go through, and for her to come to me down the road when it's too late and say she made the biggest mistake of her life. But I still have a little hope. And I think I'm going to reach out to her again soon. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I used to have thoughts like this too. My H was THE MOST PRIDEFUL man I had ever met. That darn male ego!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> But then, within time, and from me telling him, Look, I can't be your friend right now. It hurts too much. When I walked away from him a little bit, he came running after me. It made him think of what he would be losing. And he never actually, now that I think about it, ASKED if he could come back home. He just started spending a lot more time at the house when I was there & moved back in after a while. He started talking about C & what he would have to do to make the M work. So don't give up hope yet. I know you won't.

canthishelp,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> How did the do w/potty training? My DD is done and my DS has no desire. Just curious. I so love them. There should be a pic on a thread somplace, I cannot find the pic thread though. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Twins, potty training...hmmm...that was a tough one. My twins were 3 months premature & had trouble learning a lot of things till they were between 5-7 years old. I remember my nephew had a hard time w/potty training when he was 3 but now he's 4 and he's even holding it for the night. I wouldn't worry about it too much. I know though, it can be very frustrating. I'll have to check out that pic. I bet they're a set of cutie pies!

Sorry it's been a while since I posted guys, but I have to post from work & it's hard to keep up with all the threads, especially this one that grows 4 pages at a time!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> You are all on my mind though & I pray for you all the time.

I need to familiarize myself w/all your stories so I can give you the best encouragement I can depending on your situation. Just know that not all W's are conniving b*****es!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

In Christ's Love,
Yvette

Hey guys, I'm really worried about frankd and his daughter Meagan. Last I heard he was going for custody hearing, and then he never posted. Hope his wife didn't get him in jail somehow.

Hi believer,

How are those bonita biting?

GC

The bonita are biting just fine. And they are delicious and fun to catch. They are real quick and hit hard. In fact you have to set the drag on your line to catch them, because you can't be fast enough to hook them.

We have caught a bunch, and fed everyone in the neighborhood.

So how is everyone else doing?

I know that frank did not go to jail. Whew!

Juke might be getting his wife back.

How about everyone else?

I'm hurting. Information about a certain pair of people being nicely shacked up is damaging my feelings for the sparrow, and her abrupt exit has me still reeling and feeling things are unresolved.

I'm trying to psychoanalyze her, from way back, to find some explanation for all this. I have some ideas...

Sounds like you're doing great, believer. Can you eat the bonita raw?

GC

Tonight is not good right now. I started a new thread with my current story.

I think that something inside me is different. It may be the Anti-D, but that has only been three days.

I do not feel much right now. I think I now know that my WW does not really love me. I think I can let her go and if we somehow fall in love agian, great. My bets are that it ain't gonna happen. She will never say she is sorry.

Her folks went to the NY State fair today and did not call her to bring her and the kids. My WW is not a real happy girl. (except when she is looking up into the OM eyes) She is causing so much pain.

I am enabling it to continue. It may never stop, but I cannot continue to help it.

I know that my M is the most important thing to me. I also know that since it is not to my WW, what is it that I have? I think I have nothing.

I want it back and will do what I can.

Somebody tell me a joke.

A good one. Soon....

Graycloud -

I guess you can eat them raw, but we cook them.

I still think that your situation is very hopeful. I would continue going on with my life and give it more time. The Sparrow is deep in the fog - really I can't figure out what she is thinking. Most women would be sickened by a man that left his pregnant wife. Yuck!


Canthishelp -

I read your story on your thread. Their little meeting had to be planned. I think it is time for Plan B. Start getting your letter ready.

Update us again about OM. What is his situation?

Haven't posted much lately, but wanted to share my most recent events.

I'm going back to school, I've signed up for a college class on Monday's and Wednesday's from 5:30pm to 10pm (ouch). My wife was very instrumental in this happening.

At counseling this past Thursday we ended our 6 month agreement and she verbally committed 100% to our marriage. I've moved all my stuff back into our bedroom. We've begun working on making our relationship better than it ever was, but there is still a long way to go.

I guess this means I'm in recovery, and to be honest, I didn't think we'd make it.

The most shocking thing of all was what my FWW said in counseling. She's put her job hunting on hold for me to go back to school. I know how much she hates where she is in her career. She's stuck in a dead end position and NEEDS to move to a better paper. This sacrifice for me tells me tons.

I'll be honest, I couldn't have done this without MB. Thank you all for your support and advice.

Good for you, RW. Yours is a hopeful story. Cheers GC

for all of you---go read my thread.....

see---you all brought me out of hiding...LOL

now dont make me get out my old 2x4....ask 2 oak about it...LOL

RW - Sounds very promising. I always thought that you two would get back together. I know it has been a long haul for you, but time to rest up. I'm told recovery is even harder.

Hey everybody.

Found out last week OM Stevevivalasvegas, sold his house in Vegas and moved to Arizona. He apparently is staying at the house of his "friend", a former female coworker who also sold her house in Vegas and bought one in Arizona.

WW is still hell bent for Divorce. Hearing is on Tuesday for WW petition to have me vacate the house. Kids don't want me to leave. Worried about seeing me and where I'll sleep.

Hey, that is great news! Hang in there. Your wife has got to come out of this mess soon. I'm glad you are sticking with the program, and giving it a chance to work.

I think you are going to end up with a much better marriage when all of this is done. Hopefully you won't have to leave your home.

Wow, Tom. That is unexpected. Ol' Steve has cast out more than one net it seems.

I have a feeling WSs respond to big dramatic changes like this much more slowly than you'd hope.

Sit tight, Tom. She must be very disappointed.

How do you know about it?

GC

I'm sorry if I mislead you.

WW has not shared any of this with me. A while back I saw an email from OM saying his "friend" at work bought a house in Arizona, and was having trouble closing on her house in Vegas.

OM was in process of selling house in Vegas. I believe that is done now. Phone calls to Las Vegas have stopped, and now phone calls to Arizona have picked up at the same frequency.

So in my "leap to conclusion" habits, I guessed that OM moved to Arizona and is now living in his "friends" house. I don't believe that WW thinks OM is having relationship with his "friend". But if my suspicions are true I think he probably is.

So. Indications are that OM has moved to Arizona, which is the same place his female friend has a house. I never saw any mention of Arizona before in his emails.

WW, is still infatuated with OM. and Believes they are just "friends".

Make sense?