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The attempt at recovery lasted 3 days - and things are even worse now.

And I am seriously re-evaluating. WHY do I want to make this marriage work. The guy is cold and rude, very uncaring right now. OW is there (EA). told me today that at least she listens to him, supports him, never judges him and it's never an ego battle with her (sorry - don't get that one - maybe I am in a fog too). NO counseling, no reason to stay - but won't tell me tp give up either. Listen to my heart - he says - well right now - my heart is PISSED.

I just don't want to do this anymore - if he doesn't show somw sort of initiative - something - I just don't want to do this. He LB all over me - and right now I can't think of a reason (other than our children) to stay with him.

How can a marriage like this survive?

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I'd be having a side splitter right now if it weren't such a bitter thing for you to have to swallow...so he says that the OW..who has nothing to lose by doing so, supports [ie:doesn't argue or disagree] him, never judges him, and does not engage her ego. What a lush deal. Has she committed to spend her life with him as well? Has she sacrifed for him? Let's see that scenario play out when it will cost her something to do so and ask if it has changed anything.

Ok..so is the no counseling his position, or something you both refuse to do?

Why does he have to tell you to give up? You are an adult, yes? Tie your own shoes and everything? You need his permission?

Does he know that if you listened to your heart, and acted on it's directive, he may very well wake up some night on fire? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Ok now that we have that out of our system..a more reasonable response. His reactions are very, very common..is there no contact? He is in withdrawl. Nothing he says is worth hearing right now. If it was a voluntary NC then that probably was his initiative, or as close as you were going to get to it while he is still in love with/pining for his fix.

So why do you want to stay in this marriage? Maybe because you have invested so heavily in it, that you aren't willing to cut your losses if it is salvageable. Maybe you still have reason to hope..that post fogland, there may yet be fruit to be enjoyed. Maybe you want to give your children the opportunity to have an intact parental unit if it is within your power to do so. I don't blame you for not wanting to do this..who would volunteer for such a thankless task? In it's present state, your marriage can not survive. You have been reading though..correct? You have some insight as to where and how things went wrong in the first place...perhaps despite being a bit dissappointed and downtrodden at the moment, you believe that when he comes off of his addiction..some real work will be plausable. It has only been 3 days. Expect weeks if not months. You will have a better idea at that time about just where you stand. Arm yourself, and frankly, I'd emotionally disengage as much as possible from his tirades and bad moments. Did you take every temper tantrum your children had to heart? Do not assume that he is functioning at an adult level. You may feel that you do not love him..he is acting so unloveable right now...but let's withhold the verdict until all of the evidence is in, you may yet have a workable situation. If it turns out that you do not..at least you have clarity of mind that you did everything you were able and are free to go your way in peace.

Wishing you better days and the address of the feel better fairy --Noodle

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Noodle -

Actually - recovery didn't work - he went three days of NC and then went back. I am still living here, as is he.

Just told me he understands I don't want to start over - what the hell does that mean. He promised the boys a walk so he'll be back and then we can continue our discussion.

Let me state my position clearly - I DO NOT want to live like this - it's not fair to me or my children. I will give everything I've got to make this work - but damn it - he does to! I am not going to stand by, be treated this way and go on hoping. He has said no to the counseling - doesn't want it - isn't there right now he says.

So today I called an attorney. Didn't want to - but needed to feel I had some control over SOMETHING in my life right now. I still love him -

I guess I am just beeing dumb with this - demial is a powerful thing!

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Jfaye,

If you feel as though you can't go on....please try Plan B before giving up, because even though you have no reason except the kids...those are pretty good reasons. Right now, he is in the fog...and as long as he has contact with her...he won't treat you well. If he is uncaring, unremorseful and cruel...your best bet is to end contact with him until he ends the affair and takes extra ordinary precautions to avoid her. Don't let him sit on this fence and control your destiny with his waffles...be proactive and protect yourself. Good Luck


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