Thank you for making me smile.

DId I happen to mention he was suppose to be home from bowling 40 minutes ago? He left with his friends, but we were suppose to have a date. I wonder where he is???

Why do you suppose he told me to stop thinking about and talking about OP, and he called her a name, just to get me to back off?

Well I think I've got to go to bed. I tend to agree with others here that talking to him is futile anymore and that he'll only react if you take action. Maybe you need to visit a lawyer and figure out what your options are?

Night Miker, take care of yourself!!

KMEJ, I'm not sure you are pushing the right issue here. You are trying to win a small battle...but you need to focus on the larger war.

Would it be nice if your hubby would make this gesture for you and delete here number? Yes, it would. But..it would be more symbolic than anything. He's not going to forget the number simply because he removes it from his phone. No doubt, he has it memorized, anyway.

So...the issue here isn't KEEPING the number. It's committing to NO CONTACT. That's what needs to be pressed, in my view. He has to agree clearly and totally to not have any contact with her. Period.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by AndrewA:
<strong> KMEJ, I'm not sure you are pushing the right issue here. You are trying to win a small battle...but you need to focus on the larger war.

Would it be nice if your hubby would make this gesture for you and delete here number? Yes, it would. But..it would be more symbolic than anything. He's not going to forget the number simply because he removes it from his phone. No doubt, he has it memorized, anyway.

So...the issue here isn't KEEPING the number. It's committing to NO CONTACT. That's what needs to be pressed, in my view. He has to agree clearly and totally to not have any contact with her. Period. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Andrew and all...IMO KMEJ is in real physical and emotional danger in this marriage. Her husband HAS abused her. I can't in good conscience urge her to continue working on her M until she is in a safer place. I worry very much about her safety and the safety of her boys.

Of course protecting herself is the most important thing. No one should stand for the treatment she's described.

But...I just think that fighting over the fact that he still has the phone number is a waste of time. It's not going to amount to much.

There is a bigger picture here that KMEJ needs to see. You're right...making sure that she is safe is the most important part of that.

Thank you all for your concern. I am being carefull. My H has not been physical with me in quite some time. The emotional stuff is more draining and demeaning. However we talked last night about it. H also read my history on an instant message with a friend saying how lonely nd unhappy I was and that I was thinking about leaving. He took it as a surprise. We talked a lot last night, until the wee hours of the morning actually, and I think he might have heard alot of what I said, not just listened to, but heard. Only time will tell, he needs to walk his talk..> Here is to hopeing...

ALso anyone have any ideas for my night of freedom? My H is out of Town and my mother is taking my kids tomorrow night. I want to go dancing, but thinking I should do something else too, any ideas?