OOPS! ROFL.

Man.. just get soo distracted at times.

Lemonman,

I won't disagree with you. You are right. I shouldn't have made it sound like a blanket statement. I do realize that there are situations that cannot be fixed. However, I was just trying to make her think about those kids a little more. She brought them into the world into an already struggling marriage.

I came from a home where my mother probably should have left. But she didn't. And looking back, I am very thankful. I remember even asking her to leave. I told her I would rather live in a tent with her than in the situation we were in. And my situation wasn't even nearly as disfunctional as my H's and even yours.

My H's mother was married and divorced several times during his childhood as was his father. And his sister recently left her 5 children for another man. So I guess my outlook is a little jaded. Her husband (and this was her third husband and they had been married 16 yrs.) that she left wasn't perfect but I know he loved her. I spent hours talking on the phone as he cried and cried. Boy, I wish I had comforted him more and had better words of advice. He lost the battle to win her back. And now she is married to husband #4 and I think she regrets it all now.

Let's just do as you said - Agree to disagree.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There isn't really any best solution regarding divorce and children. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think this is true. Every situation is different. I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to start such a ruckus. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

ng

I apologize for upsetting anyone I came this site for some other opinions and I sure did get them...I am sorry if what I wrote was text book drama but that is just me being honest about the way that I feel and as far as the other man is concerned you all act like I see this man everyday we only Speak on the phone once every couple of weeks there is no relationship and I do not run off with him every chance I get..He is just someone that I wish I had in my life and I am not going to apologize for that.

There are heated discussions here all the time. It's no big deal.

Okay, get this - the infrequency of your contacts with the OM (other man) makes it easier, not harder, for you to see him as your perfect soulmate.

You can pitch that stuff about you think about him and some song comes on the radio. Cosmic forces are not pulling you together. Give up on that adolescent silliness. You're seeing what you want to see.

I'm sorry to trivialize your situation, but you feel this incredible pull for OM because you've kept yourself in this euphoric "in love" phase by depriving yourselves of each other.

Every relationship goes through phases. Yours, with the OM, is in the initial "in love" phase, where the person is idealized and you cannot imagine being without him.

No relationship stays in this phase. Yours with OM will not.

Let me remind you how badly you are preparing to hurt your awful, selfish, thoughtless husband. What you want to do to him is to deliver what will probably be the most crushing loss of his life. What you need are the maturity and guts to tell him about the affair, and to learn with him that marriage IS work. The idea that "if it's work, it's not right" is a stupid, stupid fantasy. I was my wife's "soulmate" once, believe me. We couldn't stand to be apart. For a year, we lived 600 miles from each other and talked on the phone every night. Now, she's got herself a new "soulmate". This is somebody she believes is her true match (whoops), and she's willing to overlook him abandoning his child and pregnant wife so she can have him for herself.

The best thing for you to do is give up your affair and lovingly help your husband understand that your marriage is about to fall apart, and that without big changes FROM BOTH OF YOU, it will not survive.

And making a halfhearted attempt where you're all the while just looking for an excuse to divorce your husband is not earning your way out.

If you and your husband get it together, you will feel about him the same way you feel about OM, and you'll fall to your knees in gratitude for not having destroyed his life, thrown your children in to chaos, and given up your beliefs.

If you leave, tell me this - what makes a marriage special? Staying together when it's easy, or staying together when it's hard?

Your affair is not unique or different or special. It's just another garden variety romantic affair. And they're all poisonous. Most affair partners are in love. That doesn't make the affair any less nasty.

GC

Passion
Have you ever asked yourself why the sort of man who you state is everything you want would be

A man who deceives his own wife
Who strings another woman along for many years
Who is quite willing to have a relationship with a married woman

Is this really what you want in a man. If you could go back to when you were young and single, would these qualities really have been those that you were looking for?

I admire the fact that you are here and at least thinking about where you are in life. I admire that you have treid to talk to your husband about your problems and attended counseling with him.

However, if you have not shared with your husband your preoccupation with this other man, I doubt that any counseling would really fix anything. I know, I have been there. My H and I attended counseling while he was hiding his affair. We got nowhere. The counseling after the affair being exposed did, because then we were working on the real issues.

If you are in love with this other man, then you owe it to your husband to tell him so that he can decide if he wants to remain in a marriage with a wife who is not in love with him, but loves someone else. In the end, you are not protecting him from hurt by not telling him, he probably knows something is missing in his marriage and can't get his finger on it. I can tell you that when I found out about my Hs long term affair, apart from the hurt, etc.. the chief reaction initially was one of relief. I had known there was something up, I had thought I was crazy. I also felt a glimmer of hope. Hope for me. I did resent the fact that I had grown older while they had continued an affair and felt robbed of the years that I may have had should I have chosen to leave my marriage.

Unfortunately a lot of what you are saying we have heard here many many times. If there was a book about what WS say when firs coming here, you are posting straight out of it.

My advice?
Read everything on this site (Not just the forum, read the info section especially the infidelity section). Tell you husband. Stop contact with other man and try to fix you marriage. (you don't really know whether it can work with your H as by your statements It sound like you have been preoccupied throughout the marriage by this other man). Get into some counseling, Individually and mrriage counseling. I agree with Dr Phil's statement that to leave a marriage you need to earn your way out. Then you will know that you did everything you could to make it work.

Good luck. This is not easy
C&S

Passion,

Please read the following article: [b]Before you have an affair with a married man[/b]. This article was written for single woman, but I think you can also benefit from reading it.

Passion, the 'in love' feelings you currently experience for the OM (Other Man) is just temporary. As another poster has said, “in love” is just a phase in any relationship. In a 'normal' relationship where there is no third party or any betrayal involved, this 'in love' feelings isn't a problem. And as the relationship progresses, the chemicals that cause this feeling eventually 'dry up', and if the relationship is to continue, then another kind of love takes it's place. A committed, stable affection that can grow deeper (hopefully) throughout the years. This is the real glue that holds a relationship together for the long term. And it's based on trust, truth and respect (among other things).

However, in an affair, biology takes the reins. Both the WS (Wayward Spouse) and the OP (Other Person) are riding that chemical wave. Physical attractiveness isn't usually an issue because the affair started through an emotional connection. A connection that's surprisingly easy to make when the WS is in a vulnerable time in the relationship with the BS (Betrayed Spouse) or in an unhappy marriage. But an affair with another person is NOT a solution!

Why?

Because a strong relationship cannot be built on a foundation of lies. The WS and OP have to lie to themselves, each other, and everyone else in order to be together. This is why most affairs end within 6 months after being exposed. Why only 3% of people who started their relationship as an affair end up getting married and why 75% of those marriages fail.

Please listen to the people around here, you need to stop contact with the OM and give your M a chance. This is a MARRIAGE BUILDERS site! Now go and do the right thing! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Edited to add:
Passion, I understand your feelings for this man (I've been there, done that), but sometimes feelings is irrelevant... Real love is all about actions...not feelings. You need to do the right and honorable thing now and give your husband and marriage a chance. You also need to expose this to your husband... You owe it to him to make his own choices. But maybe this will be a chance for both of you to rebuild and work on this marriage. Don't lose your values, self-respect, sanity etc. because of these feelings you have for another man... I can promise you, if you have NO CONTACT with this man, those feelings will eventually wears off and fade.

Suzet

<small>[ November 17, 2004, 04:35 AM: Message edited by: Suzet* ]</small>

Passion, I see LowOrbit has send you this post on another thread (I put the link here in case the post get lost between all the other posts on this board.) LowOrbit is also a Former Wayward Spouse. He has been in your shoes as well and he knows what you are going through.

I hope you will come back and post soon,
Suzet

NS: I see this post has jumped to a new page. I've send you another post on the bottom of PAGE 3

<small>[ November 17, 2004, 05:18 AM: Message edited by: Suzet* ]</small>

Passion

You have recieved a great deal of good advice. Your problem is you are not listening!

Here are the facts, as far as I see them from what I have read:

You ARE in love with your husband. You just don't feel it at the moment because you are clouded by fog and denial.

You are building your H up as a 'bad person' in order to justify your affair.

YOU are the one in the wrong here. No-one is going to feel sorry for you, because there is NEVER justification for an affair.

You say you married 'very young', too young to make a real decision. I married at 20, and resent the implication that I did not possess conscious thought. A poor excuse.

The OM is a nasty piece of work. He has manipulated you for all these years, and he has you exactly where he wants you. He will not leave his wife for you.

If you carry on like this, you will one day snap out of the fog and you will be filled with the worst pain and regret you have ever experienced, as you realise you have lost your H, the man you truly loved for the last 10 years.

Your H is hurting right now. He probably suspects your A, or knows something is wrong and thinks it is him. He has a right to know that it is not him, it is your own self-centred wishes that are causing the problem.

He will be torn apart when he finds out. But, the sooner this happens, the better.

YOU NEED TO END CONTACT WITH THE OTHER MAN. You will not regret it. But, if you do not do this, you will regret destoying your life, your Hs life and your children's lives for the sake of a fantasy.

Its time to stop being spineless and start litening to the people on this site. You have an opportunity to save your marriage, keep your family together and enjoy a fulfilling relationship with your husband. DONT WASTE IT!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ks2001:
<strong>You ARE in love with your husband. You just don't feel it at the moment because you are clouded by fog and denial.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Passion, I think ks2001 is correct on this… You must just take a long, hard and honest look into yourself and you will realize the love for your husband is still there… You are just clouded and very confused by your feelings for this other man… If you don't love your H, you wouldn’t stay with him for the past 10 years and had children with him.

Passion, please read the following post I've send to another thread a while ago. It will give you some insight and better understanding in what you're going through:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think a lot of FWS’s in recovery have the wrong idea about love in a M.

A while ago, I’ve read the following on a website link:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Falling in love is obviously not confined to infidelity. Most contemporary marriages start out with romantic love. But, therapists say, couples have to grow up and understand that "feelings of love are neither steady nor constant but travel in natural cycles," as Abrahms Spring puts it. "If your relationship doesn't live up to your ideas about love, the problem may be not with your relationship but with your ideas," she writes.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">People and especially WS’s often confuse real, stable & mature love (which can only be obtained through a long, committed relationship like a M) with the first stages of immature, puppy love when people “fall” in love and when hormones and chemicals are running high… These are 2 completely different types of love (mature & immature) and many people often expect to always have those “in love” feelings for their partner. They think something is wrong with the M if those euphoric feelings wears off… When the WS then get involved with someone else and experience those early stages of love & feelings again, they start to say to their spouses: “I love you, but I’m not in love with you”. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I thought the same thing after my EA ended, but I have learned and grown and realized that I was indeed “in love” with my H, but in a more mature way.

To explain this better: Dr Phil once said there is a difference between “falling” in love and “being” in love... He said spouses don’t stop to love each other, but instead, love transforms and develops into something more mature and stable. To use his exact words: The partner in a long & committed R became “the soft place to fall”. This is so true. My H is indeed my soft place to fall… He is the only one who knows ALL about me – he knows all my strengths & weaknesses, he knows the beautiful parts about me and the ugly parts; he knows me on by “down” days and my “good” days – but he still loves me and excepts me just the way I am, with ALL my faults and flaws. This is wonderful and in some time during recovery most FWS’s will realize this!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

<small>[ November 17, 2004, 06:58 AM: Message edited by: Suzet* ]</small>

"...What do you do when you are so in love with someone and want to be with them but there are all these OBSTACLES"

Hmmm.

So,a husband,children,marriage,CHOSEN life are now obstacles because you can't have your way and be with the adultering other man(OM).

One thing you WILL NOT get here passion,as someone else mentioned,is any sympathy for making the choice to be involved with a married man and also committing adultery.You can justify and rationalize away,trying to make it seem as though you are missing out on a great experience with this OM but you know what,it's all fantasy because YOU already have a life that YOU committed to: to your H,marriage and to your children.You CAN'T backpedal now,after all these years and being involved with this OM all these years and now say,"Oops".Your children did not ASK to be put in a situation where their mother has put everyone in jeopardy and is on the cusp of creating a HUGE pain fest.

WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN THEY ARE THE FIRST PRIORITY.Not some homewrecking OM,not your hormones,not sex,not fantasy,not scheming and plotting to be with someone you have NO RIGHT to be with.Same to be said for the OM.

You know what the word selfish means right? A blatant disregard for other's feelings;caring supremely for *one's self;believing or teaching that the chief motives for human action are derived from gratifying one's own pleasure,etc.Obviously you did not really take into consideration your H's and childrens feelings because,as it always is,it's all about YOU,the wayward spouse(WS) and what THEY want.This is why,Dr.Harley points out,that WS's lose their families,homes,jobs,respect,dignity and integrity because it's all about the "high" you feel being with this OP(other person) which,again as someone pointed out, DOES NOT LAST(infatuation).

The only reason it has lasted as long for you is because it's still a dark and dirty little secret that you carry around where no one but the two of you know and you keep it going by phone calls,chance meetings,e-mails,little here and there actions that do not add up to a real and long lasting relationship.THIS infidelity you have going on has not had the chance to stand up to real life.

There is no doubt that you are confused and upset with what is going on,that's a given BUT if you want our advice,people who have been there done that many times over and are in varying stages of recovery or even getting to a divorce,you need to make another very important decision: do you want to try and save your marriage and all the benefits that could happen from that? Or,do you want to take a chance on the OM,risk it all for a potential? I am sure,based on your strong feelings for this man right now,that you may just want to gamble and say,I wan't to be happy! No matter what.

And,you could make that decision,but know that relationships born from affairs have an abysmal success rate,about 3% in marriage and of those,the failure rate is high.Your odds are slim to none.And this site is rife with the fallout of those very people and their loved ones who have witnessed first hand the destruction and monumental pain that ensues with this decision.

Passion,if you want help to end the A and make your marriage the best it could be for you,your H and most importantly your children,stay with us.We are a tough bunch but it's because we believe so strongly in marriage and in stopping the painful effects of adultery on our families.A lot of what you hear is "tough love" but this wouldn't be the great,supportive site if we all patted each other on the backs and approved of bad behavior.

O

<small>[ November 17, 2004, 07:34 AM: Message edited by: Octobergirl ]</small>

PASSION= I too come from a very dysfunctional childhood!!! I saw lots of fights(physical and verbal)between my parents. I also saw infidelities from my mom's part and from my oldests sisters. I did not like my childhood at all, but yet my parents were "married".
If your marriage is full of violence and your kids dont see any love between you two, its not a good environment for them to grow.
If you and your husband are willing to seriously work in your marriage and make a better life for you as a couple and your kids, then it is worth it to try to fix it and stay in it.
Of course you will have to break all contact with the OM and just concentrate on your husband.
But if you are not willing to do anything for the marriage and continue with the illicit relationship, you should tell your husband,separate, do something about it, but you should not continue with the farse. It will eventually take a toll on you,your kids,your husband, everyone!!!
If you knew for sure, the consecuences of your actions right now, you will not be doing what you are doing!!!! Your future after the affair comes out in the light looks sad and scary.
Take care and go and "do the right thing" like Dr. Laura Slessinger, would say!!

MYRTA

<small>[ November 17, 2004, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: Myrta ]</small>

With all due respect, Myrta, I disagree.

It is not a choice between:
staying married and being unhappy,
or leaving and being with the other man.

There is an opportunity here for passion to be in love with her husband and be happy. Isn't that the ultimate goal here?

If, after she has cut the OM out of her life and put all possible effort into saving her marriage with her H's participation, she is still unhappy, she may consider separation.

She may consider rekindling a relationship with OM at this stage, but only after the divorce is final.

Sound like a fair deal, passion?

KS2001- But thats what I said. I am saying that she and her husband should either take it seriously and work in their marriage, with no interference from the OM, but if she cannot do that, and she continues contact while being married, she should separate.Is not fair for her husband, or her kids.
Do you think she should work in her marriage at the same time she is with OM?
She has to take her marriage as her first priority of course and try to make it work. If those kids are just seeing fights left and right, is no good for them to grow up in that kind of household.
I am the product of a very dysfunctional childhood. I saw things that kids should not see, that marked me for life. I wished then that they had separated. It was not a happy childhood, but they are still married!!! Still fighting with each other,unhappy with their choice, but now too late to divorce. They are way too old.
Myrta

Myrta

Seems like we have the same opinion after all. She definitely has to end contact with OM, whatever happens.

I just felt it was important to illustrate that the options were not so clear-cut.

Lots of love <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Ok everyone out there that has been giving me the advice, I was 19 years old when I met the OM we started out as friends and co-workers. We were together everyday and I became very close with his entire family, including his wife and son. His son was only 8 mos. Old when I started watching him at the office cause his wife couldn’t be bothered, as she put it so many times. “I’m not the mothering type” those were always her exact words. Anyway as time went on I started seeing this guy who is now my current husband, things were rough in the beginning he is an only child and wasn’t used to sharing with another person. I hung in there, well one day the OM just looked at me in such a way and he kissed me and I kissed him back. Things sort of took of from there, we were always together and I would always go and visit his parents and I always had his son with me.

His wife couldn’t have been bothered cause her career was too important to her but they used to fight a lot and she was nasty and through things in his face that she would never divorce him and if he tried that she would keep his son from him. That was his biggest fear and it was something that we talked about often. We would tell each other that we loved each other and when I had problems at home he was always there for me. I had a stepfather that was very cruel to me & my brothers and sisters. So there were many times I had to run out of my house because of a situation with my step-dad. I would try to call my boyfriend who is now my husband and if he was on his boat or out with friends he would say “what do you want me to do I am out with friends and cant deal with you right now” So I would call the OM and he would rush over there and get me out of the house. I fell in love with this other man just from being with him everyday and sharing my life tales with him as well as he shared his with me. His mother and I became very close and would always say I wish you were my daughter-in-law, because the OM’s wife never liked his parents and was never very nice to them. After two years my friends were getting married and my boyfriend (now husband) had asked me to marry him and I said yes. My mom wasn’t very happy about it cause she didn’t think that he had much to offer and she had seen the relationship that we had and didn’t like the fact that he was a selfish person. I would make the excuse that he will change, he was an only child and he was very spoiled. His own parents even approached me and asked me if I was sure I wanted to marry him because he wasn’t the marrying type. At the time I had met new friends through him and was having fun and felt like it was the right thing to do.

Meanwhile the OM and I had many talks about our relationship and I knew that he didn’t want to lose his son and that hurt him more than anything, I did not want to be the one that took him away from him either, so I started to back off. We still worked together and saw him everyday and yes we were still physical and I know it was wrong but I couldn’t help it. My husband and I moved into our new house and things got really bad, the house was in his name cause he bought it before we got married and I couldn’t even hang anything on the wall without him telling me it was “his house” and he didn’t want it there. We couldn’t have a joint checking account cause he felt it was 90/10 he got the 90 and I got the 10. We fought constantly about money. That I think was our biggest downfall, I hung in there and tried to make things better between us and get him to open up more and not be so selfish but it was very hard. Lots of stuff happened in between and it is too much to right about. We did have some moments that were physical and I went to stay with my mom.
Again I found myself falling back into the arms of the OM. I guess we just understood each other because we were both going through the same thing. Two years went by and I decided that I wanted to have a baby so during this time I had no physical contact with the OM. I had ended up pregnant by my husband and still had no sexual contact with the OM. I worked for him for 5 years and when I left there to take another job, it felt like the hardest thing I have ever had to do. After leaving the OM it had been about a year and a half that we had absolutely no contact with each other. I had gotten a phone call from his brother to tell me that their mom had breast cancer. Of course I was over there as fast as I could be, trying to help them out. I was cooking dinners for them and sending up to their house and a year later she had died. It was the hardest thing I had to do by going to the funeral home, I felt like it was my mom, when I got inside and saw him standing there he gave me a hug and fell apart in my arms right in front of his wife and everyone. His dad and brother knew why and that was because his dad said he needed me to cry on cause his wife was not making things easy for him during this time. She was not the type you could cry on. So anyway I left that day not ever thinking of hearing from him again and then I got a phone call at my office to see how I was doing. He was next door at the restaurant and asked me to come and sit with him for lunch, which I did. I could see his face light up and we talked for about and hour and alls I remember was him telling me that we should have been together all these years. And that he would always love me and he too felt like we were soul mates.

To everyone that thinks we have this illustrious affair, I hope this helps give a little background as to how this all started. To me it isn’t a fairy tale or fantasyland, it is two people that really understand each other and have the same wants and goals in life. Unfortunately it wasn’t in the cards for us, the reason I came onto this site is to possibly meet someone that has had the same situation as I and help me understand how to get past the hurt in my heart because of the feelings that I have for this man. I realize that in some ways I have blocked myself from having a healthy and happy relationship with my husband and I realize that that is something I have to work on. But I just cant seem to get these feelings out of my heart or my mind for the OM.

I realize that in some ways I have blocked myself from having a healthy and happy relationship with my husband and I realize that that is something I have to work on. But I just cant seem to get these feelings out of my heart or my mind for the OM.

So is that something you are going to start to work on...a healthy and happy relationship with your husband...

even inspite of your current present feeling for the OM...

What is your goal here...

ARK

ks, Myrta...

Passion is looking for a permission slip here, a loophole. Divorce your husband, and only go after OM after that's done - that's a permission slip. This advice is, in essence, a suggestion that this woman divorce her husband without telling him about the affair, then get it going once everybody's out of the woods. Her husband will never know the real reason for the divorce, and his future relationships will suffer for that. Unacceptable.

I think many WS try to find ways to make themselves just virtuous enough for short periods to get through the hard parts without being consumed by guilt. They stop sleeping with the affair partner for a few days while they retain attorneys and gather up their possessions and find places to live. Then they come running back to anesthetize the pain.

Keeping the affair on hold and just letting the anticipation drive you crazy is a different version of the same trick.

And passion, I probably don't have to tell you that the fact that you aren't f***ing this guy (yet) doesn't mean you aren't having an affair.

GC

Well, I dont know this whole experience has made me take a good look at my life, that is for sure, but I dont know what the goal is, I have this wall around me with my husband and I dont know why, I think alot of it is resentment for things that have happened in the past between us and I have a hard time forgiving things that have happened. I love my kids more than my life and it upsets me that my husband doesnt take the time that he sould with them. They grow up so fast and he is missing out on all of this stuff but when you try to talk to him about it he doesnt care. I just worry that my kids see that there is no love between us, there hasnt been an "I love you said in a long long time" We are not affectionate towards one another and I worry cause I want my kids to grow up and be affectionate the person they fall in love with not be like their dad and I.

JMO.. I think that sounds like a beutiful love story and ...

And I think it is so wonderful to save this OM from his very horriable W ...

And to think you poor thing in that selfish M that you have given everything to ... the nerve of your H to think he can ignore you and you would stay faithful ...

Thank goodness for OM ,, being there to talk about your problems with ,, other wise who in gods name would you have talked to shared with ...

He is such a good listener and you for him ...

Those nasty BS's (his w and your H)

They are just not there for either one of you ...

And the KIDS oh now they are much better with happy well functioning people like you and OM ...

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I see no problem here at all ,,,you love OM your H you do not ,,,

He loves his son ,,,his W he does not ....

I am sure if you 2 fight hard his W can nt TAKE AWAY his child from him ,,, give me a break ...

AN excuse maybe not to leave her ,,, OH stupid me he is to sincere for that ...

MARRIAGE BUILDING SITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMO.. I think that sounds like a beutiful love story and ...

And I think it is so wonderful to save this OM from his very horriable W ...

And to think you poor thing in that selfish M that you have given everything to ... the nerve of your H to think he can ignore you and you would stay faithful ...

Thank goodness for OM ,, being there to talk about your problems with ,, other wise who in gods name would you have talked to shared with ...

He is such a good listener and you for him ...

Those nasty BS's (his w and your H)

They are just not there for either one of you ...

And the KIDS oh now they are much better with happy well functioning people like you and OM ...

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I see no problem here at all ,,,you love OM your H you do not ,,,

He loves his son ,,,his W he does not ....

I am sure if you 2 fight hard his W can nt TAKE AWAY his child from him ,,, give me a break ...

AN excuse maybe not to leave her ,,, OH stupid me he is to sincere for that ...

MARRIAGE BUILDING SITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMO.. I think that sounds like a beutiful love story and ...

And I think it is so wonderful to save this OM from his very horriable W ...

And to think you poor thing in that selfish M that you have given everything to ... the nerve of your H to think he can ignore you and you would stay faithful ...

Thank goodness for OM ,, being there to talk about your problems with ,, other wise who in gods name would you have talked to shared with ...

He is such a good listener and you for him ...

Those nasty BS's (his w and your H)

They are just not there for either one of you ...

And the KIDS oh now they are much better with happy well functioning people like you and OM ...

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I see no problem here at all ,,,you love OM your H you do not ,,,

He loves his son ,,,his W he does not ....

I am sure if you 2 fight hard his W can nt TAKE AWAY his child from him ,,, give me a break ...

AN excuse maybe not to leave her ,,, OH stupid me he is to sincere for that ...

MARRIAGE BUILDING SITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!