How is training going for you? I posted on your story thread a few days ago, wanted to say I am glad the Eagles kicked the Packers [censored]!!
KMEJ

Hey KMEJ:

AS for my training things are going ok....although I am in a rut with increasing my intensity. Perhaps I am over training <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> . Eales game was great.....although untill they win an NFC championship it is all a moot point.

As for me personally...also A-OK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> . I am starting to get frustrated with this site again (my own issues) , so when that happens, I back off for a few days and get over it...perhaps it is time for a self imposed hiatus.

More importantly, how are things going with your WH and three little tornadoes?

Thank you for asking about me.

<small>[ December 08, 2004, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: lemonman ]</small>

I am sorry to here that things are going not as you had hoped in training. It is not a sprint- so be paitent.

I have not been as active on this site lately either. I have it up, read a little here and there, but am chosing to limit my feedback. Nothing against anyone, I just get down at how much pain is going on here, and sometimes I need a break.

My little tornadoes are doing okay. Michael is being very rough lately (he is almost 2) my 4 year old was tired if him hitting and biteing him after repeated time outs, and being asked to stop so Lucas took matters into his own hands and threw a metal church figureine at his head. Split it open and then he fell face first into the coffee table- so Michael's head has had it rough. My oldest is having issues with following directions, currently I have asked him now 3 times to get his jammies on and so far his ears are just painted on.

Things with H and I have been okay. I hate to say more then that as it changes so fast. Lately however H has been trying to give me more of his time and attention, and has been helping a little more with the family stuff (wrapping and christmas shopping).

I have been busy- I painted my whole main level last Sunday- H did not want to help- busy watching the Vikings lose- I watched, but was productive at the same time. I am also trying to convince the hubby that letting me join a gym is a good idea. A stress reliever for me. H says it is too much money and I should just excercise at home. However I went to try one out tonight, but the kids in the day care, worked out for two hours while they had a blast and we are all in better moods presently. I just wish H would support me in this.

How is your Chirstmas shopping coming?

Oh yeah I almost forgot- what are your plans for Christmas this year. I am sure it is going to be hard for you. Are you going to go and see family or are you a glutton for punishment and volunteer to be on-call?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by KMEJ:
<strong> Oh yeah I almost forgot- what are your plans for Christmas this year. I am sure it is going to be hard for you. Are you going to go and see family or are you a glutton for punishment and volunteer to be on-call? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well.....I am the junior most (is that a word??) attending on staff, so undoubtedly I get a holiday this time of year <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> . I am gonnna do New Year's eve. It will probably suck, but most stuff that comes in is BS trauma. The night is not nearly as bad as people might think. July 4th and Labor day weekend are much worse. I am speding time with the family of course this year. Honestly, I am not worried about being depressed this year regarding wife. Perhaps I will, when the time comes, but right now I am A-OK. X-mas shopping has gone well. I probably went overboard this year buying gifts, but I guess why not....I have been blessed with the ability to make more than enough money to live comfortably, so the nephews. etc.. will get a little more this year <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> . SUddenly I just don't "need" all of these material possessions I used to "think" I needed. It is kind of odd actually. You know what is weird? ...I get asked a lot by family what I want for X-mas, and honestly I don't know what to say. I can buy what I want, so I almost want to tell them to give it to the Make- A- wish foundation or something..kind of weird huh? I don't say this to portay that I am a Saint or something (Lord knows that I am not <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ) .I have always loved X-mas and getting presents. It is not so this year.


LM

Make a wish is a nice thought. However I am thinking your family really wants to gice YOU something- I bet they are thinking this is going to be hard on you.

The nephews will be excited that you are there, what you got them will be a bonus- what did you get them anyway?

Lemonman

Should you always make reference to the amount of money you make!! YOu are always refering to how much money you have and make.....please..
Everyone knows you are a "doctor",they usually make good money, not need for you to remind everyone here.

Lemonman

Should you always make reference to the amount of money you make!! YOu are always refering to how much money you have and make.....please..
Everyone knows you are a "doctor",they usually make good money, not need for you to remind everyone here.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by KMEJ:
<strong> Make a wish is a nice thought. However I am thinking your family really wants to gice YOU something- I bet they are thinking this is going to be hard on you.

The nephews will be excited that you are there, what you got them will be a bonus- what did you get them anyway? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Got it...so noted. Does that make you feel better now? I hope so. I got the message after the post the first time.

Good day to you.

Hmmmmm....hadn't noticed that LM made continuous references to his cash flow!?? I really don't think he has...IMHO.

LM,
If you're feeling generous this x-mas how abbout getting a couple of days at the spa?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Lemonman- why are you mad at me? What did I say? I think you are directing your hurt and anger at the wrong person here- I never commented on your money. I think it is great that you are so generous. Yeah you are a doctor, doctors make a lot of money- but I have not seen that go to your head- you are very giving, careing and generous.

You never did answer what you are getting your nephews as I could use some more ideas- mom gets "boring" as my kids tell me!!

Hope your day is going better.

KMEJ: I don't think lemonman's comment was to you, it was to FrederickGirl (who double posted).

Her words were not very kind.

Personally I don't think that lemonman flaunts it at all. There is reference to it, just as those who are hurting financially might mention it in their posts.

I was raised poorly, in public housing. I was amazed at how many people in my community had negative thoughts about people who did well in life. Me, I just said to myself "one day I'll be there"...and I am.

I don't know FG's situation, or why she felt the need to say what she did. I just find it sad really.

I was thinking it was not to me, but it was under a quote from my post to him. I just want to make sure. I agree I have little extra money currently and I post that often (opps) I think it is great all the wonderful things that he is doing!~

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by JanetS:
<strong> Personally I don't think that lemonman flaunts it at all. There is reference to it, just as those who are hurting financially might mention it in their posts.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Personal tragedy makes people reassess what they have, and what they've been working for in their lives. It can make people reflect on the real value of money vs other things. I once left a high paying job that I hated - took a job teaching at a local college for a fraction of the salary, and loved it. That was several years ago - before I finished my Masters, and before I completed my PhD coursework (which is almost done now). Now I'm back working FT, but STILL not making even close to what I made back then. But, I find myself WAY happier than I was in that awful job.

I am also in the process of "downsizing" financially - from a house worth more than twice what my new one is. Yet, my new house has more usable space, and is better suited to my life.

I assumed LM was also having similar realizations and reflections. I did not think he was bragging or anything like it, but maybe was just realizing that being "successful" is not enough and doesn't deliver happiness in the end.

Okay, how can I do that "quote" thing, so that it comes up bolded and separate from your reply?????

If I knew, I'd have quoted this statement from the prior posting "I did not think he was bragging or anything like it, but maybe was just realizing that being "successful" is not enough and doesn't deliver happiness in the end."

DejaVu, I agree with your comment wholeheartedly. Lemonman seems to be going through many changes as a result of this life-changing tragedy. The reflections are normal...and much healthier than the "I'll never love or trust again" reflections that many of us go through.

I've been here a long time, but only fly in for a peek from time to time, and occassionally get engrossed into a storyline that I become a "temporary regular". When I read lemonman's story the other day, I filed it under "must keep reading this stuff". His story in itself is riveting (the drama of the d-day is amazing, and it's hard not to become fascinated, even in a weird way). But his story very quickly exits that "entertainment genre" and becomes very real, as you watch his progression out of what would do many of us "in", and into an evolving state where each step seems to be a lesson in grace.

At least, that is what I get out of it.

LM ... PLEASE continue to post about your financial blessings and how you choose to share your blessings with those you love... THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT !

You're not bragging ... you're sharing personal stories...

carry on....

Pep <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

(Cripes... even WAT is allowed to share about the big-[censored] boat he's going to buy one of these days... without being chastised that he's bragging ... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> )

I just wanted to post my opinion on lemonmans "supposed" bragging. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I don't think he brags at all.

He certainly doesn't rub any of it in anyones faces.

As a matter of fact.....I thought it was very admirable of him to mention giving something to a charitable organization instead of receiving a gift from someone.

BTW......not ALL Dr's are in it for the money nor do ALL Dr's make ALOT of money.

JMHO

<small>[ December 09, 2004, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: Miss Priss ]</small>

Actually, if any of you are considering making a donation this year...may I suggest the American Heart Association or your local Ronald McDonald House?

One of my twins was born with a severe congenital heart defect. She's five years old, and has had three open-heart surgeries.The secodn one nearly killed her: she got sick post-op. Her lungs collapsed, and she spent nearly two months on a ventilator.

Our family spent a lot of time living the Ronald McDonald House so we could be closer to her during that time. She was paralyzed by drugs and asleep most of the time. But..we still believed that she could feel our presence and hear our words.

I was in my office on Christmas Eve when I got a call from her nurse: Sara had pulled her breathing tube out and was breathing on her own.

Talk about a Christmas miracle!

I will always be grateful to the skilled surgeon who put her heart back together. And...to our cardilogists, who patience, calm, and expertise has helped us keep the highs and lows in perspective.

LM,

I have a Q for you. Yo umay have answered this already in another post.

I read that you wound up operating on the OM after he and your wife were in an auto accident. My question is this: did you have a choice? Was there another surgeon there who could have done the surgery?

If there was..what was the thought process that led you to do it?

One other question: as I understnad it, the oath that doctor's take stresses that, above all, you should do no harm. Given that, would it be ethical to decline to do a surgery in a situation where you had intense ill-feeling toward a patient that might lead you - consciously or not - to do less than your best work in the operating room?

LM, I do not see you as the bragging type nor have I noticed any bragging from you. You seem to be a very reflective, caring man. The fact that "things" are not that important to you anymore is probably due to the great loss you suffered. It puts life in perspective. God bless you for being generous with your bounty. That is his intent. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />