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#1245513 12/22/04 06:28 PM
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Chris,

I am curious to know your input on Suz's plan B letter. Ok?

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#1245514 12/22/04 08:53 PM
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Sux4,

Wow, I wonder if our families know each other. I was born in Missoula but grew up near Billings also. Spent a lot of time with grandparents in Butte. College in Bozeman. And guess what? My family has a place at Yellow Bay, just down the road from you. Hey, do me a favor, look up at Big Mt and give me a ski report. We try to get back for skiing there whenever we can.

I wonder how much of your H’s current attitude is really fogless. Reading on here I see a lot of that response when the BS takes a stand but then it never seems to last.

If he moves to Montana I am pretty sure he will not want to stay, you know. It isn’t a place for everyone. Especially not someone with BP. Montana has the highest incidence of alcoholism after Alaska in the 50 states. Long cold winters are a problem for moody people.

Oh, and I thought your Plan B letter was pretty good, but I am not an expert.

With prayers,
T

#1245515 12/23/04 01:34 AM
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Hi Chris and Thos,

Thanks for the replies. Chris, I know Plan B is to help me become stronger, but I am still just praying so hard that my WH will wake up. I really do love him and my 5 year old if missing him so much tonight. When she cries for him, it just makes me want to cry and wake him up to the pain and suffering he is inflicting. Plan B is supposed to help the spouse, but from what I can see, it is hell on the children. She doesn't understand why her daddy isn't here to kiss her good night and hold her and tuck her into bed. It is so hard. I know I need to stop crying, but tonight after she went to sleep, I felt overwhelmed. I didn't cry in front of her, but even as I am typing this, I am all teary and emotional.

Thos,

To try to talk about something a little more pleasant...where around Billings did you live? I have lived in Custer, Lavina, Columbus (my sister still lives there), Hardin, Pryor and in Billings itself. My dad hated staying in one place, can you tell? I actually graduated from high school in Hardin. As small as these towns are, if you spent any time in any one of them, we probably know people in common.

Also, the ski report. According to the newspaper, the conditions at Big Mtn are as follows: Snow depth: 54 inches. New snow: 2 inches, Snow conditions: powder, packed powder, packed, machine groomed. 75 runs open.

Sorry I post so late. I'm at my brother's house, so I try not to tie up his phone by being online. And I have been having trouble logging on to this site, so I hope this posts okay.

I don't know what I am going to do while this site is down for maintenance. I'll probably go into withdrawals.

Thank you again for your posts, sometimes I really feel alone in this. Geez, I'm starting to get all teary again. Does this ever go away? I sure hope so.

Suzanne

#1245516 12/23/04 02:33 AM
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Hi, sux4.

It’s late here too. Well, less one hour. I’ve been printing digital pictures for Christmas cards. Now it’s time for bed. (Yeah, last minute, as usual - gimme a break.)

I grew up mostly in Laurel. Not much there, but it was a great place to be a kid. Roamed all over the countryside. Swam/fished in the Yellowstone. Hiked all over the Rims by the time I was 10. Lived outside more than in the house. Got my first antelope less than a mile from town. Cousin and I used to ride horses along the Clarks Fork and hunt pheasants. Uncles farm so we never worried about hunting season or licenses. I was about 9 when I got my first shotgun.

A friend of mine when to HS in Harden. Another farms on teh reservation outside Pryor even now. We used to go to Columbus when we were in HS to buy beer. No one ever carded us there. Hmm, we won’t talk about that, OK. Don’t want DS to hear too much about dad’s younger days, do we.

Flathead Valley is supposedly completely fiber optics now. Perhaps you can get your brother DSL for Christmas. Lots faster than the phone line and leaves the phone free.

While MB is down, go over to SYMC. Say hi to Penny for me.

T

<small>[ December 23, 2004, 01:35 AM: Message edited by: Thos ]</small>

#1245517 12/25/04 10:57 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Thos:
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A friend of mine when to HS in Harden. Another farms on teh reservation outside Pryor even now. We used to go to Columbus when we were in HS to buy beer. No one ever carded us there. Hmm, we won’t talk about that, OK. Don’t want DS to hear too much about dad’s younger days, do we.


T </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hi Thos,

It sure is a small world isn't it. I'm thinking of going to Columbus this week to see my sister, weather permitting. Just out of curiosity, did you ever go the New Atlas Bar (the dead animal zoo) there? Mostly what I remember about Laurel is the refineries and A & W Root Beer. We drove through there every time we went to Billings. Montana really is a great place to grow up.

Anyway, Plan B is difficult. I am proud of myself, I haven't called WH at all. He has called here three times and actually sent flowers yesterday. The first time he called was to make sure we made it here safely--unusual for him. The next night he called, I had my brother tell him I wasn't here. He talked to my daughters--asked the older one how I was doing--that is a shock. Then he called last night too. He talked to the girls then asked to talk to me. My daughter just handed me the phone and I didn't know what to do, so I just sweetly thanked him for the flowers and didn't say anything else. He told me he paid the cell phone bill so I told him, "okay, I'll send the phones back with Sean when he comes back to CA." That caught him offguard. I think he really assumes that I am coming back after the first of the year. Then he told me he received a Christmas bonus. I simply said that's nice. Mostly we talked about financial stuff. I have told my D that if he calls again, I am not available. I prefer that. It kills me to talk to him. Besides, isn't Plan B intended to be dark? It's difficult because I want to talk to my H not WH. I really miss him.

Anyway, I sure am glad the board is back up and running. I hope your Christmas was a great one.

Suzanne

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You are right, not much in Laurel except the refinery and the A&W (still there, too). My sister worked there in HS. Oh, can’t forget the RR yards. Largest this side of Brainerd, MN.

Yup, been to the dead animal zoo. I was maybe 11 or so, my first drink (root beer) in there. That place would be a packed icon here in Seattle. There it’s just more normal.

Plan B is supposed to be completely dark. Midnight on the high seas with no moon. Use your relatives for necessary info exchanges. WS is just playing the attachment game, IMO. Saying and doing what he thinks you need, all the while still eating cake.

He has to get his EN's met onl;y from OW. Onlty from her. Nothing from you until he figures out what side of his bread has the butter.

T

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