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Ok, My inlaws took me today to this "witch lady" and bought me candles to light up and follow with some prayers and also got me some scented lotions to dump in the water while I take a bath with rose pedals, etc. I have never been to those places before and it was scary (very). Specially when the lady started describing my situation without much information given to her. They got some weird stuff to place in their freezer etc.

Does anyone believe in any of that or has tried it out of desperation? This lady also told me not to withold sex from my husband (that messed up my mind since I am plan B'ing)plus I did not say anything to her about that (no sex). They even made me take a call from him after I did not answer my phone in front of them and they felt like reading me my "rights" when they found out it was him calling. What a day let me tell you! They are my parents in law and love them so much and they love their son and me and are trying to fix us however they can. My WH does not believe in any of that and will kill me if he found out what his parents are doing and I am following. I do not know what to believe. I was raised a Catholic and the prayer portion I can do but all the other stuff is too weird for me because it is unknown/unfamiliar.

I am not sure if the "black magic" portion of my subject line is the correct word but I do not even know how to describe the use of weird herbs, prayers, lotions, candles, etc.

Alright, I am bored at this time of the night so entertain me with your thoughts! Thanks, Love

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LOL........

did you by chance receive any 'wax dolls'...and pins???

seriously....must have been a strange experience for you...and catholic guilt kicking in....lol

so...picture your bathroom as your church....you light candles at mass..?...light 'witch lady's (LOL) candle much the same...say your prayers...think of your tub as filled with a form of holy water for you to bathe and cleanse yourself in....

if you put aside the weirdness of it all, and see it as nothing more than another, stranger(to you) form of RITUAL...

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Hmmm...well was it "black magic", "white magic", "voodoo"? All different and intention has a LOT to do with it. Wicca is white magic :-)

Do I believe in it? I think the power of suggestion has a lot to do with things. I think it's possible, but I'm a skeptic. I've read quite a bit and almost "became" a Wiccan, but I believe in God, plain and simple. But Wicca is very uplifting..it was a good experience to read about it.

If what your in-laws are doing makes you uncomfortable, I would voice that. If not and you feel you can "play along", go for it. They are trying to help which is a lot better than most of us get from our in-laws!!

do not be swayed from your Plan B, though, regardless of what any..hm...supernaturally-sensitive person might tell you. And explain to your in-laws what Plan B is all about.

Even if all this stuff was real (magic), I would go by sound psychological methods any day over magic.

Cause I'll tell you what, I may be skeptical, but I would NOT mess around with something that I don't know about. I have never touched a Ouija board and never will. I have never tried a spell, good or bad, and never will. Because ya JUST DON'T KNOW and what if you got something wrong?? Yikes!

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Do I believe in it? I think the power of suggestion has a lot to do with things. I think it's possible, but I'm a skeptic. I've read quite a bit and almost "became" a Wiccan, but I believe in God, plain and simple. But Wicca is very uplifting..it was a good experience to read about it.

I agree Maddy. One of my sisters is a Wiccan, so I have read a few books on it and listened to her, but I am like you and can't quite get past the religion stuff involved. Plain old fashioned folk magic is very interesting to me, but purely for fun.

Put your faith in the Plan B Love, and have fun with the other but DON'T compromise your Plan!

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Love - please, please, please don't let those idio-, er, folks talk you into breaking your Plan B.

Next time, perhaps, ask if they can channel you to the Mothership to help unscramble your H's brains.

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Funny how we beome so desperate to save ourselves/marriages...

I don't know if I "believe" in it or not..But, I have some good friends that have Native American Indian blood - and I was going to ask them to do a "little dance for me"....hey, it can't hurt...

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It sounds like Wicca to me too, I know quite a bit about it, and likewise, I could never get past the different "Gods/Goddesses" thing, but in Wicca there is no one "right" way or God to pray to, so if it makes you feel any better, you can do these things, and pray to your God (The God, in my opinion).

The way I feel about it is, it couldn't hurt, right? No Wiccan spell is ever to hurt anyone, they don't believe in it, in fact they say you get what you put out there back times three, so no wiccan would suggest that you do something harmful to another person. They also don't believe in messing with anyone's free will, so any "love" spell would just be a nudge.

The Wiccan Rede (Sorta like their motto) is:
Do what ye will
But harm none
(I may not have that exactly right...but you get the gist, right?).

Hell these days I don't rule anything out.

I don't usually post replies, but I actually knew a little about this subject, so thought I'd horn in.

-Caren <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Sounds like Mexican magics to me. My husband's best friend used to practice...till he placed a spell on his mil. She was diagnosed with cancer 2 months later and passed (not that she didn't have cancer before - it just freaked his monkey out big time). My mil believed in the magics - had pictures of the saints with money taped to the pictures all around. I went into one of the shops once - all the stuff you describe was there. I agree that a lot of it has to do with the power of suggestion - but the very best thing to do is to hand it over to God. He will provide and He will comfort. Anything else you do is a waste of time (unless you find comfort in it - but if you find it scary, what comfort is there?). Besides, we are told NOT to dink around with magics, are we not?

Having dabbled a little in the arts when younger, I know now where and with Whom the Truth lies.

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But, I have some good friends that have Native American Indian blood - and I was going to ask them to do a "little dance for me"....hey, it can't hurt...
Not to get into a debate over this topic, but from a Christian standpoint, yes it CAN hurt.

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love of a lifetime,
First of all, I think you are very brave posting this ...
I would not say it is black magic, I do not know anything about Wicca ... but I do believe that there are certain people that can see things more than others ... and the catholic guilt doesn't help to the confussion...

The first time my WxH had an A (in 2000), my mom took me to 'her lady' and even though I did not knew at that time he was having an A ... she told me with a lot of details what was going on ... she described to me OW ... at that moment I thought she was a phony ... until I came back home and he confessed ... she was right!, everything she said ... he repeated to me ...

This second time, I asked my mom to take me to her ... yes, for me it was desperation, hanging to whatever I had ... and again she told me a lot of things ... I took some flower baths, lighted some candles, prayers, and after I left home she did some works to separate WxH and OW ...

The funny thing is that WxH believes as much as I do in this lady ... she has never tell me or my mom anything that has not been truth ... she even told my mom when I was going to get pregnant ... my mom didn't tell me until after I told her that I was pregnant ... and a lot of other things ...

did they work? up to some point, I have to say yes,for now, but who is to tell where this things come from or where they are going to ... who is to tell that things were going to be like that even if you didn't do them ... it all depends on what your beliefs are ...

If you feel uncomfortable with them, don't do them ...

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None of this will "work" for you, unless you want it to work.

There are no "magic beans" unless you BELIEVE they are magic.

they probably talked bvery fast and gave you a bunch of advice. Take what you want, don't do whatever makes you feel uncomfortable.

relax, have a nice bath and enjoy the scents...light a few candles...and that's ALL. What these tools are used for is for you to focus your attention and mind on goals. To think of what you want to happen, and your mind will formulate a plan to get there. If you want to use them...great...if not...great too.

But you can clear your own mind and set your path in yoiur own way too, through prayer, and thoughtful devotion. Do what is comfortable to you. If it is scary for you, then that is what will arise out of it, more anxiousness.


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