KMEJ..
I am sorry that you had to grow up feeling that way. I worry that this will be how my son feels one day. The thing I just don't understand is that my BIL (WH's brother) was a BS and he knows what he went through and saw what his kids went through and are still going through. He can't possibly truly believe all of this garbage that he's telling me can he?

faithinme....you are right....he's trying to convince me of what he is saying and hoping I bite.....NOT HAPPENING!

I went out with the girls last night and I called to say good night to my son...he was with his dad...well, my WH got on the phone twice to ask me questions about our son that he already knew the answers to. I'm sure he could hear the loud band in the background along with all the people talking. I got the feeling he was kinda wondering where I was. I hope he's truly worried now that I'm moving on with my life.

Shame on you, TreeReich! It's very apparent from his letter that WH is selfless, noble, thinking of the best of everyone.

And here you were thinking that he went out and had an affair just for fun! That it was selfishness! All the time he was banging her, he was doing it selflessly for the best of everyone! You, your son -- what is best for your spiritual destiny was on his mind continually -- not OW's bottom. We had to destroy the little village to save it. War is peace, up is down, and screwing is chastity!

Isn't there a drink called a fogcutter? How do you mix it?

TR, this isn't the first long letter of gobbledygook that WH has sent. I believe you are supposed to be in Plan B -- isn't there some way you can protect yourself from this?

How about something simple from intermediary: "TreeReich prefers not to receive any personal correspondence from you, as per her letter of PBL DATE. She asks that you keep communication to a minimum, and please send all necessary correspondence through me."

Tree, all I can say with my mouth wide open is, "OMG!" Does this man's fogbabble ever stop? Does he lay awake at night, that is after he prays for you and Cameron, thinking about the crap he's going to write to you?

He just LOVES that word dissolution. Glad he's easing your son't pain by using that word. And Tree, you should be so grateful for all the benefits that your son now has. Gee, he's gotten to ride on planes, he now can celebrate 2 holidays instead of that old boring way with his 2 parents. Best of all his love for you freed you from being with such a dishonest person such as himself. Well, maybe there's a tad of truth in that statement.

I don't have time to further analyze his letter. This man is so screwed up and it is so obvious that he knows he was a DI**head. He wants to convince you so much that he really is a good man, and you really should forgive him.

I'll tell you one thing, he can't be spending too much time with the OW, because he seems to be spending a lot of time writing these elaborate letters to you instead. Thank God your son has you Tree! CV

Hello Tree,

WOW is all I have to say. Your WH is sooo full of himself. He was the strong one that had the courage to leave. Such utterly complete garbage, as I'm sure you completely know. What I did get out of his letter is the fact that I (Native) do think it's great that your moving on with your life seperately from his garbage and having fun!

Have fun and good luck, don't do anything that I wouldn't do... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Native

It is very simple, he screwed you over as a favor to you, how nice....

Don't wait on this guy, you can do better, besides you look a bit like Lady Di.

TooSoon

I just love hearing what everyone thinks of his babble. It makes me laugh. He has got to be the most fogged out WH out there!!!!!!

I don't respond to his emails. It's not worth my time and effort. I am getting on with my life. The more he writes this garbage the more I realize I'm better without him.

Toosoon....I get that I look like Princess Di all the time. At least once a day. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TreeReich:
<strong> ......how can he even think that our son is happier having 2 holidays rather than one with his family intact???? This just blows my mind! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's called rationalization.

Also, have you noticed that some people believe that if they say something as if it were true, that somehow MAKES it true? It's beyond fog - it's delusional.

<small>[ January 23, 2005, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Deja Vu ]</small>

Tree:

WS's who don't take responsibility for their actions are forced to blame someone else for their own actions. Your WH sounds intelligent in his writings but words are very shallow.

He actually believes or wants to believe he has done everyone a favor, including your son, to venture off with this new woman.

Find yourself a new man and, in time, you will get the last laugh. There will come a time when their own deceitful ways will be turned against them by them. I am in hopes you can find your new "prince" in the meantime.

TooSoon

DeJa Vu..........delusional is right!!!!!!! He's out there!!!!

Too Soon....I know when the time is right that I will meet my "prince". He's out there somewhere. I have to believe that there is someone out there!

I guess I should be thankful that I have such a noble WH who would leave me and my son for another woman....ya know....he's just trying to do the best he can...... GAG...GAG....he makes me sick!!!!

I too believe in your posted saying, "What goes around, comes around". I say it all the time.

I also believe in Dr. Schuller's saying, "Tough times never last, but tough people do".

Hang in there.

TooSoon

Too Soon.... "Tough times never last, but tough people do".
I like that!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM a strong woman and I will survive! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Too Soon.... "Tough times never last, but tough people do".
I like that!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM a strong woman and I will survive! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I also like that quote it's great! And Tree I too hope you find your prince.

A new prince for Lady Di. You do look like her although I think you look better, I didn't really find the real Di all that great.

Native

"I also like that quote it's great! And Tree I too hope you find your prince."

I have faith that I will one day!


"A new prince for Lady Di. You do look like her although I think you look better, I didn't really find the real Di all that great."

Thank you!

<small>[ January 23, 2005, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: TreeReich ]</small>

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Now he's emailing me telling me that his lawyer emailed his counter petition to my lawyer. I don't respond back to him. He must be trying to get me to write something back to him by continuing to email me. NOT happening!!!!!!!!

You know TR, I was gonna discet that e-mail from the fog but it isn't even worth the effort. Like Leilana (another MBer) used in her sig line: "life's too short and I'm too cute". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I think it is also applicable to you.

Let him go off on himself. He is sooo self righteous, the A s/b setup as a national holiday! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Here's the thing.... the quieter you are the more restless the A natives get. LOL!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Yep, they don't know what you are up to and will spend their quality A time on thoughts about you. YEP you get more than an honorable mention, I think the BS makes the A's front page news..... everyday. In fact you can't have an A w/o at least 1 BS. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Remember this thought...... I'm the BS, blame me! That's another piece of fog that the WS try so hard to do to the BS. Of course, we can't stop them from babbling it but we sure can...... well you finish that thought. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

take care,
L.

Tree,

I used to be the WS.....and even I am amazed at the amount of cr*p in that letter. He is feeling extremely guilty for what he has done, and is trying to "spin" it as altruistic.....

Cameron is getting the "best" of you both.

He is now strong, courageous, and humble <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> .

"If" something happens to him, he will go believing you forgave him <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />


Gosh, by the sound of it, you'd think he just nailed himself to the cross!!!!!!!!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />


Don't fall for any of this.....and keep that silence. After all, 'silence is golden' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

(((((TR)))))

This honestly has to be one of the most delusional e-mails I have ever read.....

Stay strong, try to get at least a good laugh from all his 'humility' and treat yourself to something special....you deserve it after having to read that! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Orchid....you're right...it's not worth the effort. It makes me laugh that he's using up all of his time writing me trying to justify his actions. If he were as happy as he claims to be then why bother trying to make me feel better about what he's done.
He's called here a couple of times tonight to talk to our son. He doesn't usually do that. I kinda think he was hoping that I would answer the phone. My son said he really didn't have anyting to say......strange!!!!!!

LIT...
Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
I agree..his emails are really out there. I really can't make much sense out of them. I'm thinking that the OW is in his ear telling him all kinds of bullcr@p! I just don't know where he's getting all of this stuff from.

I do deserve to treat myslef after reading his garbage. Hmmmmm....what can I do for myself? I'm sure I'll think of something. Maybe I'll go buy myslef some nice perfume! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

He might be trying this approach to get a reaction out of you - as a way of getting you to engage. You may need to be part of his equation for the game to work. In this case, the best defense may be a good silence!