M23B,

Right after this person began posting, I asked if you had the tapes to the Dr. Phil show.

Although the poster chose to assume it was for the purpose of furthering your case in a divorce (which in a no fault state would be irrelevant in a divorce anyway....custody could be a different story though), the reason I asked is because I wanted you to pull those out if you do.

Watch them. Print out this thread.

Now, being in Plan B, you don't need to involve yourself in the crapola going on here, but when you question why your in Plan B or when you feel weak in continuing your Plan B, pull these out.

Watch and read. The anger, the smugness, the absolute indifference to your pain or the future of those three little boys are so apparent.

If this poster is in fact D23B, his life without you is not exactly fullfilling. Happy people just don't carry around that much anger or desire to hurt.

THIS, is exactly why you are in Plan B. You are removing yourself from this game, from the chaos. GOOD FOR YOU! If you ever need reminding as to why, watch and read and then go enjoy your little boys.

Hello SOM,glad you enjoyed my kids.

Correction. These are God's children. And he entrusted you with their care.

Man are you in trouble!

OK....I'm trying to keep up with this post but I'm lost....can someone please explain what all of this is about? Was this couple on Dr. Phil or something? I'm confused! I really want to help but need more info.

OK....I'm trying to keep up with this post but I'm lost....can someone please explain what all of this is about? Was this couple on Dr. Phil or something? I'm confused! I really want to help but need more info.

Yes, they were. Go to www.drphil.com, select show and then show archives for November 2004. There were two shows, A Family Affair part 1 and 2.

Cherished

Ok..I went there but how do I find their story? I'm sure I saw it when it was on.

1. Go to www.drphil.com
2. Click on "The Show"
3. Under "Inside" on the left, click on Show Archive
4. Where it says, please select a date, select November 2004
5. Select 11/11/04 for A Family Affair (the first show) and 11/18/04 for A Family Affair, Part 2

Cherished

Thank you....I found it. I think I saw that show. So, is Ed posting here???

He did in the past, under Dad to 3 Boys. Now there is someone posting called dirt devil who seems to be trying to defend what is indefensible. Could be him, could be his OW, or it could be someone else. His wife thinks dirt devil is him.

Cherished

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by dirtdevil:
<strong> Hello SOM,glad you enjoyed my kids. Thanks for hosting them and showing everybody around. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm with Believer. I do not believe that DirtDevil is DT3B. The writing style is very different. It might be OW (which wouldn't surprise me at all) but it is just as likely a Troll from TOW who is getting their jollies.

Mom, I am so sad for you and the boys. I am praying for all of you (yes, Ed too) to each experience relief from the pain and peace to go forward. With Ed or without him, you will find your strength to overcome these dark days.

~ Snow

Cherished...thanks for filling me in. I will keep an eye on this new poster.

M23Boys....You hang in there!!!!!! You have our support!!!

Hi Dirtdevil,

This website is a marriage-building website and I think it should remain that a way. A supportive place where people can go to get help when they are interested in recovering and rebuilding their marriage. Hurtful statements like the ones below are not only deconstructive to your own BS, but also to other people who are struggeling through the pain of infidelity.

I don't know your wife personally, but I highly doubt that she is happy seeing you self-destruct. If you truly love a person, you do not want to see them hurt. If you truly feel that you cannot ever be happy with your wife again, then you will need to let go. But I get the feeling that you are not so sure about this and that is were you feel confused.

When I first found out about my husband's EA, he acted very similar to some of your postings. I think that he wanted me to hate him. I can never really hate my husband. My biggest fear was to loose him, so I became clingy which drove him further and further away from me. I was finally able to let go; it took a long time, but I understood that I cannot force him to be with me. This was a very liberating feeling for me. I was very scared at the same time.

Of course, your situation is much more different since there is a woman now who may be pregnant with your baby.

I hope that you and Mom will find a solution to end this madness so that you can BOTH find peace in your life. This is not a way to live and you won't be able to go on like this indefinitely or you will become physically ill. You as a doctor, especially, should know the effects that this can have on your health and your body.

In closing, I'd like to say one more thing. If you truly believe that you will be happiest with the OW and you feel that your happiness there will be Mom's destruction, I have to tell you that you are mistaken. She may be closest to rock-bottom, but there is always a way up and there is a way up for her as well and it may not include you.

Good luck to all!

Kati

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by dirtdevil:
<strong> Lets see my happiness is her destruction or is it my destruction is her happiness? hopefully these are not mutually inclusive. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

Whoever Dirtdevil is, the person sure did choose an appropriate name. CV

… and doesn’t know the grammar (redundancy) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />


I don't think it's Dad.

Cherished, thanks for posting the links to Dr Phil. I've never had anything to do with him like read his books or watch his show. The interview with M23B and her odious WH really spoke to me. I'm going to look at that site more. I already emailed Dr. Phil's after infidelity page to my WH. It spoke in a way I haven't. It says the things our MC hasn't.
Thanks and boy, does my heart go out to M23B.

Can we cut out the barbs on ALL sides?

2 wrongs don't make a right.

And when insults are countered by insults it makes each of you no better or worse than the other. Please don't stoop. Either ignore or rise above and help...