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#1267416 01/26/05 05:56 AM
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im married to my H for almost 10 years now. 2 years ago, i discovered he was meeting his ex-girlfriend (sometimes, he claims) when we go to his hometown. i did not know about this ex-girlfriend, the only ex he didnt tell me about. i discovered their continuing relationship (albeit, "friends" he says) when i opened his email. i saw an exchange of passionate emails between them. this was kinda resolved when he assured me that he was still committed to our marriage and that he will end this exchange of passionate emails. he did send an email telling the girl that they have to stop emailing sweet stuff to each other because "my family is more important to me". sometime last year he went to his hometown, but before he went, i asked him not to meet her. he promised not to. when he came back, i asked him if he met her, and he told me point-blank, no. but i discovered that they did met, and of course, threw a fit about it. we had a big fight, and he told me he did not want to tell me about it because i would get mad. it was only a friendly meeting. my point has always been, if it was a friendly thing, why cant you tell me about it in the first place? hiding something means there's something to hide. his "infidelity" has never really been resolved with me, and i am still not trusting him. he said that i should just trust him.

well, it's affecting our relationship up to now because i am suspicious of his girl-friends at the office. he hangs out with this group of friends, which includes these 2 flirtatious women (both married). he says they are safe because they are married. and also emphasize that they're just all friends. i am jealous everytime they go out (which is at least once a week), and they do stuff we dont do, e.g. play darts, pool, drink (i seldom drink). i am particularly suspicious with this one lady, Heather, who sends him text messages (by phone) stuff like: hope you're feeling better, i miss you, and even "i love you" in our language (he says that they were just joking each other, and it doesnt mean a thing to her because it's in a different language). and sometimes when they go out, he cannot control the time to stop and go home. he says, it's something you cannot control when you're having fun, and that you also have to allot time to let the alcohol go out of your system before you drive. i have asked him to have discipline, say be with friends for 5 hrs, to include 2 hrs of sobering up if needed. i mope at home waiting for him, and i told him it's easier if i know how long to wait.

we have one 9-year old son, and im 7 weeks pregnant now. i had hoped that with my pregnancy he'd be more considerate and have more discipline when he's with friends. mind you, they are in 30's but they could drink. i've also tried pleading with him to lessen drinking because of his liver problems. i think he's the type who cannot say no to friends, especially to lady-friends. he even went to disco went them, even if he does not dance at all.

thanks for this forum, and allowing me to vent. any advise is welcome. please pray for strength for me to carry on.

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Will your H be willing to review the POJA with you? There are great resources withing the MB site. In fact, there's even a Q&A regarding going out with work-friends after work without your SO. Have you navigated through the site to check out the different resources?

Also, the EN questionnaire is a great way to start a conversation about what's important to each of you in the relationship. It certainly worked to get my FI and I to open up to each other about what's been bothering us.

Please post again and let me know how things go.

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You are correct in your assumption that people with nothing to hide, hide nothing.

Please don't fall for the snow job he's giving you......I went through the same "we're just friends" BS too

Keep your eyes peeled.

-Caren

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Are you ever invited along on these "friendly" outings?
Married people generally should not have friends of the opposite sex unless the person is friends with both spouses. It would be worth paying a sitter so that you can be there, if he will not give up this type of socializing.
Drinking and being in a bar atomosphere, especially without one's spouse, leads to sexual behavior. It's just a fact. People are there to hook up.
Yes, it's fun. Your husband obviously enjoys the flirtations, etc. which are inappropriate and dangerous for a married man, so of course he is going to fight you on this.
You are sitting home feeling abandoned and vulnerable while he has fun with other women. Whose needs are in first place? Whose are in last place? Why? The goal in marriage is for both of you to communicate your needs and reach a compromise that is GOOD for both of you. The present set-up is great fun for him and a terrible crisis for you. Don't stand for it.
Can you get him to read articles here? Get the book "Not Just Friends" by Shirley Glass ASAP....
The excuses he is using are commonly lies told to keep a spouse in the dark. MARRIED WOMEN CHEAT ON THEIR HUSBANDS EVERY DAY!!! The fact that these flirtatious women are married is no safeguard at all. There are many shattered men on this board who can tell you what a line of b.s. he is feeding you on that issue.
Almost every single betrayed spouse on this board has heard the lie "we are just friends". This means NOTHING.
Your internal alarms are going off and he is trying to convince you that you are wrong. I would bet the bank that his relationships with these women would horrify you if you could see how he behaves with them when you are not around.
Please be aware that his behavior is VERY typical of a cover-up.
Show up unexpectedly at the bar the next time they meet and see everyone's reaction when you join in the fun. This would tell you a lot.
One partner staying home with the children while the other runs around in the bar is a recipe for disaster. If infidelity hasn't happened yet, it will. Don't let him convince you otherwise.

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Me again. I reread your posting and realized I didn't even get into the original situation where he has been secretly meeting with a woman and sending passionate emails.
Honey, it doesn't look good. I would suggest that you really do a lot of reading on this board and educate yourself as to what situation he has gotten you into.
He is playing you.

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As part of our R Mrs. E and wrote some "policies to live by", one of them is... if I wouldn't do it/say it in front of my S I won't do it or say it.

Sounds korny I know but think about it.

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