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Sense and see a lot of concern and confusion here. Of course that makes me want to do the 'clarify' thing..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Here's a question to ponder. Where do you get your support, guidance and even advice/counseling to help you cope with your personal situation? When you give it deep thought, you may find out they come from some pretty awesome, unusual and clever sources.

Does it always have to be from a recovered M? Does it always have t/b from a BS? Does it always have to be a person, or could it be a thing, a pet, an abstract sound or thought? What happens if that person or thing disappoints us?

My point (yea it's coming - LOL!!!) is that our support c/b from any source available to us. Our human sources are not perfect. They have their personal issues like everyone else. Our non human support contacts (pets, plants, songs, picture, etc.) are not always available but coupled with our other resources, they too can be valuable contributors to our personal support system.

Should we be disappointed or set expectations so high of those we rely on that we get horribly disappointed when others we look up to suffer as we are suffering? No. Unless it's God, all our other support sources can have down times. It doesn't mean we should discount them. Nope. Instead we can look for the good and discard the bad.

In my personal experience I learned a lot from many sources. I kept my outlook so that I did not count on a sole source as my only point of comfort and support. At first I was the student, needing t/b taught how to survive. Then I learned to be the assistant and worked with the teachers who helped me. In time I was able to give back some of what I learned and thus you see me here posting.....every day (well almost everyday <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ).

My point again??? Ok, here it comes. My point is that sometimes the ones we look up to will have hard times. They are as valuable now as they were before. Just may need a bit of their own time to handle what is now a critical issue in their lives. They have given us their time, patience and attention before. Nothing is perfect in this world.... yet. So now it is our turn t/b supportive and caring.

Will this fix their problems? Nope. That responsiblity resides in their court. But it does bring some comfort to know that others care and that in itself is a big help.

For me personally, I took my WS back waaay to early. MBers who were helping me knew that. They told me. If you think I am a fairly strong and pro M poster...... you c/b right but there comes a time when the M needs either a major overhaul or ended.

Even for the best of MBers rediscovery of a d/d is hard. The emotions run high I don't care how often you have been through it. All need time to adjust and cool down. Then depending on the state of your heart and mind....... plans to move forward can start. They may change back and forth a bit. That adjustment period is exactly what is needed. One thing is that no MBer or coach can predict how things will turn out. May have a gut feeling but that's about as good as it gets.

If you have never been through this roller coaster, you will never know the true effect of the ride. Watching on the sidelines is totally different than sitting in the ride. A few have been able to really empathize. For most, it took them a while to get the whole picture. When they did, their posts proved t/b invaluable.

So stop and think where our support really comes from. Then as soon as you can, thank them, or pet their head (if it's a pet), hummmm along (if it is a song), enjoy the beauty of a tranquil place, whatever your support may be, enjoy it. Appreciate them/it.

JMHO,
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A "bump" and an "Amen!"

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My support is from my good friends, my kids and the MB board. My dogs are always good for a bit of devotion. I write in my journal a lot. Something beautiful, like the willow tree behind my house encrusted with snow this morning, lifts my spirits. Exercise, like a walk or a workout.

I think we have to take the good things where we can get them. Try to stay optimistic. Is this what you mean Orchid?

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Orchid:

Just to add a little more: I also feel that those who we respect and reach to for information continually learn from their own life-experiences. In other words; the way we "teach" about an issue that we've never experienced is usually affected when we go through a like experience. It's one of God's ironies - that is undeniable and often humbling. At the very least; it is enlightening. That is why it's so important to be desirous of learning and possibly changing throughout our entire life; which is also scriptural!

Good topic "L"! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Orchid,

Good post. I've found support all around me. My H has been my rock. My children have lifted me up. My family has been great. My friends are wonderful. My internet "friends" have been there for me. Even messageboards have been helpful. However, I've posted here when I was really reaching out for help, and I was very naive. A few times I got knocked off my feet by some nasty posters. I later realized that they were in pain, trying to sort out their problems, but when you're very down, it doesn't take much to really set off severe depression. That's why Cerri's thread got to me. I know she wasn't asking for advice, but it seems to me that people will JUMP at the chance to rip someone apart or to tell them how to conduct their lives. It's very hurtful!

I hope that this board can be inspirational instead of finding hate and hurt here. I know that I've made some friends here and it's been a good tool for me. I'm finding the good from this board and from life lately, and learning to discard the bad.

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Good morning. Thanks for your responses. It is wise and healthy to look for the good and discard the bad.

Life's learning experiences really help us make lemonade out of life's lemons. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> We can learn from others and should not discard or look down on another just because they too are dealing with a similar problem that we thought 4 SURE they never would have.

Never say never...... nobody's perfect and the lesson we surely learned here is that we can't control even the one's we love. Sometimes we gotta let them go and fall down on their own.

What we can do is make sure ourselves and our families are not tied to them (WS) sooo tight that we also crash.

Providing and receiving support is a 2-way street. It c/b a healthy learning experience or a depressive one whose scar never heals. The choice is ours.

We are quite blessed for finding MB. Through the pain comes the healing. I think our WS' and BS' whose spouses come here to learn and help benefit. I know mine did. His life was spared and he had a chance to be with his family again. It took a few tries to get to this point but the main thing is that he has made it. Now it is his job to stay walking in the right path plus help his family and our job to support him and ourselves.

JMHO,
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