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So, Charles and Camillas affair that led to the destruction of his marriage Diana Spencer, and her marriage to Lord Parker Bowles, caused endless suffering in both extended families is to be rewarded with official permission to marry.
This man will one day become the leader of the Church of England, therefore the whole protestant faith.
What is your opinion of this?
I think it reinforces public opinion that its OK to solve M problems by having an affair as they end up as fairlytales like princes and princesses.
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Bob - It is the first thing I read today. It makes me very sad because of all of the pain it caused Lady Diana and her boys. I know I won't be watching this wedding.
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All I can say is that he takes after his several times great granpappy Henry VIII, who rewrote centuries of law and remade his religion to accommodate his sins and classify them as non-sins.
But sorry Charlie - God is still God. Hopefully Diana got enough good into her sons that they won't carry the sins of their father on their heads in their own behavior.
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Bob,
I think it's a shame that the church is bending their own rules for this prince.
What does it say for the state of M?
Also, don't let them breed!!
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This made me feel ill. What a weak, weaselly, wimp he is. A selfish, callous pair. And yet a large part of the British public (the ones that infidelity has never touched - yet - presumably) will shrug and say "Well, if he loves her..."
Bring on the republic.
{Edited to add: I'm sad to say I AM British)
TogetherAlone <small>[ February 10, 2005, 07:15 AM: Message edited by: TogetherAlone ]</small>
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It makes me sick.
I was just thinking the other day. I think that people who cheat in their marriage shouldn't be allowed to marry again.
Maybe it's because I heard that my STBX wants to marry the girl in a few years. Just the fact that he thinks that it could happen is just proposterous.
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I feel badly for William and Harry. They have had two choices, either accept Camilla as their father's partner, or NOT.
If they accept her, I can only imagine that at some deep level it would feel like a betrayal to their mother. They know how tremendously painful this relationship was on her. (I still can't believe that he was with her immediately before the wedding accepting the gift of the cufflinks with their pet-name initials on them, which he wore on his honeymoon). That would be very difficult on them.
The other choice, choose not to accept her, which creates ongoing issues from here to eternity, and could destroy their bond with their father.
It appears they accepted her some time ago...and I understand that choice, but I'll bet they wished they'd never been placed in that position.
I'm not up on the latest news...is he still allowed to become King under the current law (did they change it so that he could marry her?).
PS I went to England to see his first marriage, and I absolutely loved all of the pomp and ceremony. Such hope the British people felt at that time. <small>[ February 10, 2005, 07:18 AM: Message edited by: JanetS ]</small>
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to top it off... I have to sit here at work and listen to the news all morning on the tv and it's all they are talking about.
Maybe I can get away with watching ESPN.
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He was totally wrong to cheat, and from what I understand about his church, would be wrong to remarry (don't get upset if I am wrong about that). But, I think he has always loved Camilla, and only because of pressure from his family did he not marry her in the first place. His family should have let him marry for love, and not because someone was suitable. On the other hand, if he was a real man he would have told his family to stuff it, and married the woman of his choice.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> This man will one day become the leader of the Church of England, therefore the whole protestant faith. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Uh...I guess this just a tad off the main subject line here, but what did you mean by this? The 'whole protestant faith'???
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In the Anglican Church it is fine to remarry after divorce. It is the Catholic Church where this becomes more complicated, and the divorced one must seek an annulment first before being able to remarry in the Catholic Church.
Now, I'm not 100% sure of this, but my understanding was that Charles wanted to marry Camilla decades ago, but she didn't want to be a Queen, so opted out. She then married somebody else, and Charles continued looking for somebody else. Who knows when she chose to have an EMR with Charles.
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I just read this and thought - OK they are together - the real shame in this matter is that they were not allowed to get together when they were younger - they have always been in love and because he was to be King of England he was not allowed to marry someone that was not a virgin - and then by that time I am not sure if she was divorced with children or not - so he was forced to marry someone that he didn't love. Now don't get me wrong I do not agree with what he did to Dianna - but he was also not able to follow his heart from the beginning...
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Bob,
I just couldn't care less actually.I know it may be a big deal where you live but the whole "Royal Family" thing just isn't interesting to me.Maybe like George Bush might not be interesting to you? LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> He sure isn't to ME!
I have to say that I was so saddened when I heard of Princess Diana's death.I was glued to my TV waiting for information about why.I really admired the work she was trying to do after such a painful time with Prince Charles.I don't agree that she should have been involved with someone too while married but it sounds like it was a big mess all around during that time.
I guess I mostly feel for the boys( Prince William and Harry) like someone else mentioned.I don't know how accepting they will be of Camilla but they are old enough I think to be able to say that they don't want to deal with her,maybe they don't mind,I don't know.It seems to me in many cases people just "give in" to what is and accept.I know that if I were in their shoes,I would want nothing to do with that woman.
Like believer,I will not be tuning into this "marriage" or reading about it.
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edited for typos <small>[ February 10, 2005, 08:40 AM: Message edited by: Octobergirl ]</small>
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Double post. <small>[ February 10, 2005, 08:56 AM: Message edited by: Daisy37 ]</small>
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This might sound odd coming from me since we had to deal with the SAME scenario in my family but I am okay with this.
My FIL left my MIL after 30 years of marriage for an OW. My MIL went into a deep funk...came out of the deep funk... found herself an new man...but then suddenly died.
A year and a half ago...after my MIL`s death, my FIL married the OW.
And yes we attended the wedding...my oldest son was the ring bearer and my H was the best man.
This is how H and and I both now feel about this whole situation.
My MIL is gone. The marriage did not hurt her because she had no knowledge of it. The A and the divorce DID hurt her of course but when she passed away she gotten her life back on track and was VERY happy. She was happier then than when she was married.
My FIL is still living. And my H loves him....and wants him to be happy. Now H does not agree with OR LIKE what my FIL did but that`s water under the bridge...it cannot be changed. You have to live in the present.
My H views the OW/W as his father`s W...but NOT as his "step mother"...in other words he is polite and courteous to her and is even pleased that she makes his father happy because he loves his father....but he does not have any kind of emotional attachement to her. And he never will.
When his father passes away...if she is still living I doubt he will make an effort to keep in contact with her.
H will also not "allow" our boys to call her "Grandma" or any form of that either. The other children in the family do call her Grandma but not our children. They call her by her given name. My H is admament about this....my MIL was their Grandma and always will be...she cannot be replaced.
This works for us. There is a family peace. And I think this maybe the same type of set up within the royal family.
Diana`s boys may accept Camilla as their father`s wife WITHOUT being disloyal to their mother. It is possible to do this IMHO.
And if you think that the marriage of Charles and Camilla will mean that they have gotten off scott free... i.e no negative consequences to their actions...THIS IS WRONG!!!!
There will always be people who dislike them...who will not accept them OR the situation. There will always be some snubbing by certain people and whipsers behind their backs that will follow them FOREVER.
This is what happened in our family.
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D'ya know what her title will be when/if (up) Chuck becomes king?
Princess Consort.
(snort) Consort....a very nice way to say tart, imo.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dealan-de: <strong> D'ya know what her title will be when/if (up) Chuck becomes king?
Princess Consort.
(snort) Consort....a very nice way to say tart, imo. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You are too funny <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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Seriously....imo, it's just a nicer way to say, "Hey I'm doin' the King, but they can't refer to me as homewrecker b/c that's not proper."
(flip the hair, stick the nose in the air)
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Upchuck and Tart will NEVER have the full respect of their ``subjects``.
There will ALWAYS be TAMPON jokes (remember that bizzare exchange) made behind their backs.
I do not know how they face the public. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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'Specially with THOSE faces!
It is so good that Diana's genetics were dominant.
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