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#1279384 02/20/05 02:07 PM
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hello everyone,
Just needed more advice. 8 weeks since d-day. When i last wrote i had told you that my husband told me a little more happened between him and this ow. He told me they tried to have sex but he was to scared and could'nt stay excited so after awhile they just stopped trying.he said he did'nt do nothing because he could,nt stay excited. They were in her car so they were'nt prepared anyway. he still got tested and everything was fine.He said this was the only time something like this happened. they did talk often on the phone but never got in this type if situration again . she is a co worker when was leaving her husband because he was abusing her and thats how this all started she needed someone to talk to. i will not excuse my husband but he put himself in a bad position when he agreed to get in her car.The advice i need now is in one of my last posts i had said that this ow h found out and went crazy threated my husband and was not to nice to his wife. he did tell my husband to work on his m and he will work on his. well this past friday this guy called me to tell me that my h and his w have had sex every tues and thurs since nov my heart broke in half all over again.i called my h at work he was in a meeting but another girl who is a were of this situration got a call from this guy gloating that i called him and i was very upset.she pulled my h out of the meeting he called me and left work right during a test he swears up and down this other guy is lying since his m can't be saved he wants to ruin our chances.i don't know what to do i know on tuesdays my husband had school and he came home first. when he did'nt have schoolhe had manatory over time till 5 and he was always home by 525 can this guy really be trying to get back at my husband.i still have a real hard time and i am on meds for panic attacks which my husband has helped me with.he has been so wonderful but i can't stop asking questions about this affair. the only thing he does tell me is he did'nt even come close to having any feelins of love for her she just gave him alot of attention. now my h is starting to have panis attacks. he is so sorry for what hes done he keeps calling himself this evil person. He thinks i going to leave him.now i have to stay in control because he is out of control. thats had to do.WE found a love in eachother that we never knew was there and i want to work on that.we have both books his needs her needs and surving an affair. do i let this other guy to get to me. the only thing new that came out this week is that he calles her more than he told me at first. but everything else was the same they were only together one outside of work.and they did'nt finish the act. Can the other guy be this mean? Sorry this is so long

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LL

#1279385 02/20/05 02:37 PM
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It could be true.

It could be a lie.

They are equally possible in this wacky situation.

Would your H be willing to take a lie-detector test?

Pep

#1279386 02/20/05 04:28 PM
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This may not be what you want to hear...but it is a good possibility that the other H is telling the truth...why would he go out of his way to further ruin your marriage?

Are you in MC? Are you guys reading the books you have and applying them?

It sometimes takes days-weeks and even months before the entire truth will come out...about who, how many, when, etc...and even then you wonder....

Please don't totally disregard what the other H is saying...and I just caution you to proceed SLOWLY if you are planning to reconcile- and read everything you possibly can on this site....

Keep your eyes open!!

My thoughts and prayers are with you today

JG

#1279387 02/20/05 04:40 PM
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I hate to say this, but it is more likely that it is your H who is lying. Adultery and lying go hand in hand, and your H has already established that he is untrustworthy. It would not be wise to take the word of an untrustworthy person.

I frankly do not believe that they never had sex, that sounds like classic wayward spouse bullsh** designed to minimize the fallout.

I would suggest calling the OWH and asking him for his evidence. And remember, he is not the bad guy here. He is the victim of your H and the OW just like you are.

Even though your H and his honey are trying hard to demonize the OWH, don't you fall into that trap. He ain't the bad guy here. He is the VICTIM.

And lastly, I hope you realize that y'all are playing Russian Roulette with them working together? They will likely NEVER recover and will probably resume the affair in the future. That is about like sending a recovering alcoholic in the bar every day and making him sit there and stare at a cold beer. He will remain obsessed with the beer and is bound to take a drink in a moment of weakness. Y'all are playing with fire on this one!

Here is what Harley says about continued contact:

"Never see or communicate with a former lover

Once an affair is first revealed, whether it's discovered or admitted, the victimized spouse is usually in a state of shock. The first reaction is usually panic, but it's quickly followed by anger. Divorce and sometimes even murder are contemplated. But after some time passes (usually about three weeks), most couples decide that they will try to pull together and save their marriage.

The one having an affair is in no position to bargain, but he or she usually tries anyway. The bargaining effort usually boils down to somehow keeping the lover in the loop. You'd think that the unfaithful spouse would be so aware of his or her weaknesses, and so aware of the pain inflicted, that every effort would be made to avoid further contact with the lover as an act of thoughtfulness to the stunned spouse. But instead, the unfaithful spouse argues that the relationship was "only sexual" or was "emotional but not sexual" or some other peculiar description to prove that continued contact with the lover would be okay.

Most victimized spouses intuitively understand that all contact with a lover must end for life. Permanent separation not only helps prevent a renewal of the affair, but it is also a crucial gesture of consideration to someone who has been through hell. What victimized spouse would ever want to know that his or her spouse is seeing or communicating with a former lover at work or in some other activity?

In spite of career sacrifices, friendships, and issues relating to children's schooling, I am adamant in recommending that there be no contact with a former lover for life. For many, that means a move to another state. But to do otherwise fails to recognize the nature of addiction and its cure.

con'd at: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5060_qa.html


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