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My FWS had intense feelings with lover that she said she never experienced with me physically and emotionally.

Any explanations / thoughts?

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Fog!!!!

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can anyone explain the "fog" in detail?

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Cain, 'Fog' is a mocking but accurate term we use to describe the deluded, illogocal, addicted behabiour and speech patters of wayward spouses in an active affair and in withdrawal thereafter.

Fog is rooted in hormonal activity peculiar to the kind of emotional and physical stimulation that can occur duirng an affair.

The Fog allows the WS to believe any old self-justifying sh*t regardless of an utter lack of support in logic or reality.

Much Fog talk and behaviour seems to be deliberately designed to hurt the BS, as belittling the BS helps to justify their unacceptable affair behaviour.

Lifers on these boards advise not to pay any attention to fog babble, as it really is the remablings of a temporarily insane person.

In my own experience Squid (My beloved FWW) became a snarling spitting, venomous thing for months.

I learned reverse babble from Orchid on here which really helped cope with this unpleasant but temporary set of symptoms.

And Cain, they ALL say " I love you but I'm not in love with you" or " I never loved you" Blah Blah.

Its sadly , pathetically predictable although ocasionally theres a new Fog gem to add to the canon.

The GOOD news is that with NC in place, as withdrawal passes, Fog clears to reveal a very scared, embarassed , humilated and loveless FWS.

Heres some of my Squids fog. look how poisonous and stupid it is, yet we're doing well no a few months later in recovery.

Mrs Pure's Fog Compendium

Study all you can, and ride the storm without LBing. It will pay you dividends.

All blessings.

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While you are getting good advice on what is "fog," I want to also tell you that all fog talk is not invaluable. Within that babble, there is truth for you to glean.

Let me give you an example. Your wife might say "I never loved you. I thought I did, but I think I was just young and foolish." Now, that is pretty much fog talk to a T. But, she goes on to say "I now know that I wanted something different, and if I had to marry over again, I would marry someone like the OM." My wife said these things early on. And as you can see from this, we are starting to get close to getting some "truth nuggets." Anyway, she then says "I could never again go back to having a husband that..." and then insert whatever the gripe is. A husband that doesnt pay attention to her, or is irresponsible with money, or puts his job ahead of her, or whatever.

Now, out of that conversation, most of it is garbage. But some take EVERYTHING out of a WS's mouth to be garbage, and I think they miss out on a great opportunity. A lot of times, if you ask them the problems, they cant tell you directly (or wont...to protect themselves and justify their decisions). But, when you are just listening, and they are rambling...they almost always will give you a truth nugget.

So, in my example, the WS babbled on, but eventually told me what one of the problems were, what the OP was fulfilling.

With that knowledge, then you silently proceed forward to make changes. If she said that she didnt like someone that worked so much or traveled so much, then you head off to work, ask for a new position that doesnt have so many hours or doesnt travel as much. You dotn say anything to the WS...you just do it. Then once it is done, your WS will notice that you are home a lot more, they will notice you havent gone on any trips in the last few weeks. And it will be them that come up and say "How come you are home so much now? What happened to all of your trips?" Of course, you wont say "Well, I heard you say that you didnt like me travelling so I changed jobs in order to placate you." That would not work. Instead, you just say "Oh, there was a position change at work that I had an opportunity to jump at...so I took it. It is great. I like the people there, and the great thing about it is that I can now spend a lot more time at home with you and the kids."

What you would have just done is PROVEN change. And proven change is a fog killer. It blows away all justifications of the affair and having the OP. All of a sudden, the WS wonders who the heck you are.

So, begin to learn to decifer fog talk. Find the truth in there.

In His arms.


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