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I've seen some of the exchanges that you posted re: your very angry 18 yo son. Has he seen both sides / truth of the story now?


The picture is becoming to come into focus. He apparently has a houseful living in California with him. He's not focused on the right things, but I'm hoping he'll come to see the light when mom's not around as much.


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....WW's lawyer sent a 50 page stack of documents for me to respond to. Good GRIEF what goofy questions you lawyers (Brit's Brat) think up! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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"Prior to marriage, did you act as a married couple." You mean like on stage??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

"Name some people who saw you acting as a married couple."" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> ??????

The lawyer sounds like he got his license to practice out of a cracker jack box. LOL!!!

BTW your W seems like she doesn't have a permanent residence. It looks like she is always in a temporary place of sorts. Wouldn't that make her feel insecure? Does she then take those insecurities out on you?

Just curious.

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BTW your W seems like she doesn't have a permanent residence. It looks like she is always in a temporary place of sorts. Wouldn't that make her feel insecure? Does she then take those insecurities out on you?


She's having to rely on a few friends to stay with. I'm glad she has been since it provides a more stable environment for DS8.

Speaking of whom. I took the rest of the week off to spend with him. Yesterday we drove to Mount Rainier and took a hike up to see a big waterfall. It was a struggle, but once he got there, he was really impressed.

WW has been keeping a low profile. She's planning to come out here for a long weekend in two weeks in conjunction with a business trip.

Along those lines, my lawyer filed for a revision to the parenting plan that gave WW custody if she returns to the city. Since this was in direct contradiction to the psychologists recommendation, she asked for the judge to correct it. That happens in two weeks too.

I haven't been posting here lately since because I've been so busy with DS8 and I've found a really good friend to share with in the evening, so I'm too tired to come on and post.

BUT! Things are going well for me. I'm sorry the marriage has not worked out.... now mainly for the kids sake. I'm confident of my path forward. Focusing on DS8 with an eye open for S18 to return. There may be some more fireworks there soon since the money for rent has not made it's way up. I wonder if it made it's way to WW <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
Not the biggest crisis. DS8 becomes DS9 next week, but the party is tomorrow. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> The ice cream cake is ordered, the alley is reserved....I need to buy a birthday present! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> YIKES! Gotta go.

Life's good. Let's remember the people struggling in New Orleans. Any MBers down that way?

Hey Texas! Nice job welcoming all of the refugees. Money's coming from up here I know.


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SIS,

Good to see you back around! Remember what I told you about coming out the other side...day by day, you'll see it more and more.

Happy B-day to DS.

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Along those lines, my lawyer filed for a revision to the parenting plan that gave WW custody if she returns to the city. Since this was in direct contradiction to the psychologists recommendation, she asked for the judge to correct it. That happens in two weeks too.
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Good job!

Happy birthday to your son.

God bless,
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Happy birthday to your son.


Thanks Gimble and BB. Everyone here has been great. WW's mom moved to Europe to be with her yesterday. I'm not sure her mother will help her much. After conversations today DS8 wished he was back in school in Europe. I told him that wasn't our choice. I think he's worried about having friends here when school starts. I know it won't be a problem. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

He's been doubting himself lately, saying he's not good at anything and he doesn't have any skills. I was able to remind him that he many skills and lots of people liked him. Grandma and Grandpa showed up tonight. He's very excited about that. Of course he'll have Legos coming out of his ears tomorrow! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Next week, he enters his stable environment whether he likes it or not! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Life is getting much better.

Thanks guys!
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Hi, Sleepless.

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The truth of that statement will show itself in a huge way. Watch how he grows emotionally from here.

God bless,
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I finished the 125 interogatories on Labor day. Mom and dad took DS8 shopping for clothes and supplies so I could do that.

DS8 couldn't wait for his first day of school to start. He came out of class that afternoon smiling and telling me what a great teacher he has.

Soccer practice started that night too, so he's back running around with friends.

The last few days have been really good for him it seems. I guess I felt like I've accomplished a really good thing. STBXW reads to DS9 over the phone every night at 9:00 PM, and now she's calling in the morning at 7:00 to speak to him too.

Yesterday, I was "counciled" by my Director not to use company E-Mail to send updates about WW since her lawyer sent a letter to our CEO and Legal Staff protesting my use of company E-Mail for use communicating with her supervisors. My Director had a hard time keeping a straight face,and really said no one was concerned about it, but for future correspondence, use personal E-Mail.

Our company allows personal use of company E-Mail provided it's not abused, or communicates in bad taste, etc. I did none of those things, but in order to minimize exposure, I was asked to do that. No real problem. Just petty. BTW, I didn't even communicate with her supervisors on the date she complained, it was with a few coworkers that were our friends.

Today, WW sent a message about visiting DS9 next week, and in October. She was trying to be communicative and rationalize different things. Then she signed her message, "Your Wife". ????? She never did that before.

She mailed me a note this week, and addressed it to Mr. 'Sleepless'. How weird.

September 13 the lawyers go to court to throw out the provision that WW gets custody if she returns to Seattle.
I'm not worried about that.... but the checks to the lawyers are beginning to wear on me. I may have to dip into my parents good will. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I feel guilty costing my parents money for my decision to marry a nut! Speaking of that. One of the mothers at soccer practice asked if I would consider getting back with WW if she got help for her problems. I told her my eyes were open for a miracle, but I wasn't holding my breath.

So, here I am. being a single parent. Hoping there's money left over to pay the bills after the lawyers get their share!


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Mild depression. DS9 just got a gift from mom. It's a picture frame with pictures of their time together in California at Disneyland and the beach. They're both smiling. She looks like a happy sensitive mom and beautiful woman that I once knew. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I'm trying to forget that person.... or at least believe that person is gone.

The card she sent has Winnie the Pooh and Christopher Robin looking over a pond, and the words say, "Promise you'll never forget me."

I should be mad she threw our family away, but I can't work up the energy for that now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


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Hi, Sleepless.

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She made the choice, you didn't. If you want to get mad, get mad at her presumption to make unilateral decisions for your family. That entitlement was at work when she kidnapped your son as well.

The person that made those awful choices was your wife. It may have been a part of her you had never seen, but it is still her. She has some serious character issues. I bet the evaluator knows that.

Stop beating yourself up because your wife turned out to be reckless. That disney picture is mostly a pretense feeding an intended manipulation, especially the "Promise you'll never forget me.".

How about you promise me you will never fall for such manipulation or place blind trust in the same, ever again?

God bless,
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How about you promise me you will never fall for such manipulation or place blind trust in the same, ever again?

Oh that's good. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I'm better now. I guess I was just looking at a snapshot of an illusion I once knew. She's still misguided and manipulative. Better to protect the sons from that. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


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Looks like the Xws and lawyer are reaching pretty far down into their pants to find 'something' to pick on you for. LOL!!!

The OW where I work (the WS is my boss), tries t/d the same thing. I just look at her and ask (as calmly as possible), ok OW, what does that have t/d with today's issue? She shuts up because events from 2 months ago have nothing t/d with todays issues. What a nut. That's just what they do..... as a result, she had to skip out of the office for the rest of the day. Geeze and that's who the boss left in charge!?!??! There w/b an interesting meeting on Monday. LOL!!! OW decided to piss off 3 clients and 3 employess and that was in just 2 days. There are only 3 other employess in that office and 1 of them is me. LOL!!!!!

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Get a load of this. After explaining in a long E-Mail why DS9 shouldn't have to come back from Paris until a day and a half before school starts on Jan.3, she tosses in the following comment.

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WW.... your wife...the one you said you were going to treat with all the respect that you promised until the day the divorce was final : )  ha ha - I'm trying to lighten things up between us....bye
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Why does she want to be light hearted. Is she trying to relieve her guilt again?

My reply was all business like, and I'm wondering if I should respond politely that there's nothing light hearted about what's been going on for the last 6 months, or just ignore it.

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Thanks Orchid. It's good to keep a sense of humor about the goofy perspective WS's have.

I'll have a better sense of humor when I'm fully safe.


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Naturally, you not giving her whatever she wants is disrespectful. Pfffffft!

I wouldn't bother, SiS, unless Orchid gives you something brilliant to say. Though I can't imagine it would do any good.

I suppose you could say, "I agree, it's nice to be respected."

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Ignore it. You could answer, "and I will be glad to respect my wife when I get her back", but I would just ignore it.

You do realize that every time some weirdness like this slips out of her mouth, that she pulls a major stunt shortly thereafter.

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Light-hearted? Hmmph...... not possible. Do they even have a heart? LOL!!!! Oh the feable attempt at humor out of a WS..... really. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Well you gotta at least give 'em credit for trying, despite how foolish they look. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Ok SIS, I doubt there is much to say to her 'lite humor'. LOL!!! Just smile knowing u r the sane one here. Love your children and reassure them that dad still has a head on his shoulders. They know. They really do. It is just hard to have to admit they have a close family member who has been kidnapped by aliens and left this weird ill-humored creature in their midst.

Just watched a cartoon called the Proud Family Movie on Disney w/my son last night....seems like this guy cloned the family and the real daughter thought her father had finally got hip and was letting her have all the freedom she thought she wanted. Turns out her 'father' was in reality a clone on a mission to steal some secret sauce or something like that. The point is that the freedom she thought she had from a clone was no match for the real love that comes from a real family with real boundaries. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> See even the cartoons get it. LOL!!! Why can't our spouses?!?!?!? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Be cool Seattle. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Hey Seattle,

How are you doing?

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