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#1358551 04/15/05 08:52 PM
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Mimi, cc

I have started my own thread I feel it is going to be a long slog.

Summary

WH has A thought it was only going on about 8 monthe but actually EA about 7 years PA about 4 years( WH admit to 2 years only). In middle of A it wanes somewhat that OW has relationship with WH brother she dumps him after 5/6 months and WH moves back on in. He is in "love".

BS D day 09/04 WH ends A 02/05 but ongoing contact because they both work together and are finishing off a postgraduate project.

WH think contact is ok he no longer feels the same way about OW it is a mind thing!

He does not want to talk about the A at all. He is sorry, very sorry that he has hurt me he made a mistake thus it seems since he has said these thing I should just get over it and now believe everything he says. I dont think so> I have already found him out in some lies.

Mimi you are right he still needs the EA. I know for sure the A is over but he does not seem to think there is anything wrong in still talking to OW. I dont think he really considers me at all in this.

He is being like my H was before but since I now know the time scale of the A I feel he could just have gone back into charcter of pre discovery. After D day he was typically mean, nasty, distant and cold but now he is totally the opposite 95% of thetime some times the fog returns.

I am confused I just dont know what to do.

DD2 has major exams in 6 weeks time and I am worried about any disruptions for her she would be devastated if WH moved out.

I want to push him out 90% of the time but that extra % is holding me back. I am feeling a lot stronger now but still?

Last edited by dyinghere; 04/15/05 08:53 PM.

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Read this and then tell me why you don't go into PLAN B? You need to do PLAN B until he has absolutely No Contact with her. You are prolonging the A.

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But plan A, an effort to end the affair with thoughtfulness and care, doesn't always work. In many cases a wayward spouse is so trapped by the addiction that he or she does not have the will-power to do the right thing. Once in a while the fog lifts and the cruelty and tragedy of the affair hits the wayward spouse right between the eyes. In a moment of grief and guilt, he or she promises to end it. But then the pain of withdrawal symptoms often brings back the fog with all its excuses and rationalization, and the affair is on again.

Sometimes a wayward spouse settles into a routine of having his or her cake and eating it too. In an effort to win the wayward spouse back, the betrayed spouse meets emotional needs that the lover cannot meet, while the lover meets emotional needs that the betrayed spouse has not learned to meet. While this competition is excruciatingly painful to the betrayed spouse, and the lover as well, the wayward spouse basks in the warmth of being loved and cared for by two people, with no real motivation to choose one over the other.

So, to avoid an indefinite period of suffering while a wayward spouse vacillates between spouse and lover, and to avoid rewarding the selfish behavior of having needs met by both spouse and lover, if plan A does not work within a reasonable period of time, I recommend plan B.

Plan B is for the betrayed spouse to avoid all contact with the wayward spouse until the affair has completely ended and the wayward spouse has agreed to my plan for recovery. In many cases, once an affair has ended, a betrayed spouse makes the mistake of taking the wayward spouse back before an agreement is made regarding marital recovery. This leads to a return to all the conditions that made the affair possible -- love is not restored, resentment is not overcome, and there is a very great risk for another affair. Without agreement and subsequent implementation of a plan for recovery, the betrayed spouse is better off continuing with plan B.


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Dying, I don't have Mimi's experience to advise you. I have been thinking a lot these last few days about the tone in Dr. Harley's e mails to me and that has made me think of As from a different perspective. I find that personally I could not tolerate living with a husband who is having an affair, but I realize that not everyone is like that. I imagine that there are millions of people who live in marriages where one spouse has an affair and the other prefers to remain married and tolerate the A. So not everyone is the same.

On the other hand you Dying seem to not be able to decide what kind of marriage you want. If you are like me and I guess like Mimi, or georgia, you would not tolerate an A and following MB principles as Mimi advises you would fight for your M. Or another relationship .

have to go now but will check tonight and write some more.


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