Yeah, Pep? Why are you so sarcastic?

I loved you when I met you in person. And now you seem so cruel and harsh.

Susan <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

I have sinned ..... again.

Can you forgive me?

Pep

Let me ask you Julie/Sarie, why are you here?

This is a marriage building site. We don't need a board IT person.

Susan <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Pack you handbasket.

Susan <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

I have seen so much perceived disrespect in this thread. It sometimes makes me wonder just how many DJ's and LB's a WS can take before they, too, throw their hands in the air and give up trying to salvage their marriage.


Nor

[color:"navy"]Ok, Susan, Pep, Trix, Melody and Bob.
You have successfully driven me away.
So go ahead and cheer and clap your hands.

It has been time for me to go for a long time.
H and I are doing wonderfully. Better than before the affair.
The painful past A is almost healed.
(It will never be forgotten but truly forgiven.)

I have sincerely enjoyed reading and posting here.
I don't know how I could have survived without
MB friends. I am sure I will still be lurking for awhile.

My H's affair was never told to anyone except our pastor.
It was a SECRET.
Our children never knew, our parents never knew.
I didn't even share it with my sisters.

Nobody but friends here at MB.

I will not post anymore.
This makes my heart beat too fast.

One confession before I go.
I am not 54...I was so wanting to keep our identity a secret that I took 5 years off my age. I am actually 59, H is 60.

We do have 4 children and 8 grandchildren and we do live in the country and I do love flower gardening.

I am NOT Sarie, Sarah or whoever she is.
I was even fooled into believing her. I once started a thread to SKIM because I thought Sarie had confessed to her H.

So goodbye everyone. I am not being dramatic;
I just can't take being made fun of.

Sincerely, Julie <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Ok, I know that there's something being illustrated here, I'm just not sure what it is. And now that BT is gone, I don't think it will be played out to the end.

Care to splain? It's like the VCR breaking down before the end of the movie! Whodunnit?

Oh, I donno LB ...

I doubt this is really over. Stay tuned.

Pep <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Ok, Susan, Pep, Trix, Melody and Bob.
You have successfully driven me away.
So go ahead and cheer and clap your hands.

I quoted your post. How can this 'drive you away'? I haven't made fun of you.

I don't know why you have posted as ( at least) two different online personalities. It was only pointed out that you are Sarie AND have a history of mean posting because you were lecturing the boards. OK Pep & Susan had a little mean fun with you but having gone through an affair, surely you have sand enough to handle that without flouncing off ?

You have every right to post as Julie, Sarie, Madonna or Tammy faye Bakker if you wish - we are all anonymous on these boards unless we choose to reveal ourselves.

Don't worry about it. Just remember that 'people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'.

I hope it's over soon. Clearly there is a strong need for board police. (Fortunately there's a little button: 'notify moderator')

Put aside the Harley concepts and the abusive pointlessness of disrespectful judgments. Put aside the Biblical arguments that we should love each other and treat each other with a basic respect. Put all that aside, and refer back to the TOS, (as posted by Joanna):


This thread is rife with it. And it's coming from people who should really know better.

Blessed Time, I've enjoyed your posts I'm dissappointed to see you being treated this way. In fact all in all, this thread has been the source of much dissappointment for me. That a poster be judged by what side of the 'clique' they are on rather than the content of the post is surprising and discouraging. I will be sorry to see you leave.

In retrospect, looking back over this thread, I'm feeling a great dissappointment. Some very good points were raised, but missed and ignored because the desire to snipe, to out-post, to bury the 'opposition', has overcome and overwhelmed the desire to learn and grow from our interactions. Very sad, especially considering where we are.

dewt

I agree there is a need for board police, they are called moderators. We can see the disasterous result when folks sanctimoniously appoint themselves "board police;" this thread is a testament to that. Dissension is the inevitable result when one tries to control others. We should leave the behavior policing to those whose job it is and concentrate on our own behavior. We can only control ourselves.....

Whoa... ML and I are agreeing all over the place...

This is creepy!

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dewt

Ah, Jimmy Mac,

We accursed Morlocks slink back to the comfortable shelter of our subterranean lair.

Perhaps we are less than fully human. Perhaps there is something inherently ugly about us. We acknowledge this.

But, joyfully, we remain assured that there plenty of scrumptious Eloi about on which to feed...

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Low

Wow, what a disappointing (sp) turn of events on the the last page or two.

It seems the original point has been made perfectly clear with the last accusations and snippiness towards a poster.

Maybe the TOS should have a warning: Beware, even the seasoned veterans may turn on you without warning and make unfair and unfounded accusations for their own fun and entertainment. Sign up at your own risk!

Sad.

I can lock this thread, or delete it, but for the moment I am going to allow the discussion with one comment.

In my long experience with MB, threads started to tell other posters how to post ALWAYS turn into a brawl. Someone will take offense, no matter the intentions of the thread originator.

GQII is filled with posters who either are in one of the worst times of their lives or have that time in the past. On any given day posters are in pain.

Keep your discussions respectful.

And just a side not to let you know MB "board police" are alive and reading on the forums.

We DO get your alerts and do try to follow through, however we are not online 24/7. Many times, by the time we read the alert, the forum members have "handled" the problem. Many times it has escalated. Please be aware the new format does not allow the "alerter" to comment on the reason for their alert. Sometimes it is not obvious. Is it a comment, an attack, a negative history between certain posters, the entire thread? Please feel free to email any or all of us with an explaination if you feel it may be necessary. Our email addresses are available at he bottom of each forum by clicking on our names.

Archuletan, thank you for coming. I feel much relief that a moderator is overseeing this thread. I'm glad you are not locking or deleting it because I feel that this topic is an important issue that really needs to be addressed.


That's because it falls right into the category of disrespectful judgements... (or is it selfish demands) and a typical and predictable reaction is likely to ensue as this thread amply demonstrates.

However, the originator of this thread did raise a valid point in his post.


I don't believe that this was attempt to control. Maybe I missed it because I didn't read the thread that was originally refered to. As someone who just clicked open a thread, I viewed this post as an attempt to get people to look at their own posting patterns and perhaps consider another perspective.

That people would react so violently to this post has me scratching my head in confusion. 2000 yrs ago, a guy came along encouraging us all to be nice to each other, to treat each other with love... and we nailed him to a cross. Is this human nature? What's the matter with us?

dewt

Well Dewt, I don't think I would equate Jimmy Mack to God. [nor would Jesus live up to Jimmy's sensitivity standards] JM is a nice guy and all, but I would not equate him with Jesus.

Suggesting to others how they should post and lecturing them on their posting styles is controlling behavior. It is manipulating behavior that most normal folks don't take kindly to. It would be like if my neighbor appointed himself the lawn care cop and went around measuring grass heights and demanding that others adhere to his personal yard care standards.

But, even if you want to call it a baloney sandwich, it is a disrespectful judgment that never fails to bring on the kind of angry response we see here. It was inevitable and very predictable. And the crying shame is that much valuable time and energy has been wasted on this foolish thread instead of helping others.

Hopefully, we can use this as a lesson on the folly of trying to control others and move on. Let this be a testament to the pitfalls of controlling behavior.

Well, that's your opinion. Your totally entitled to it.

However, its apparent that the posters on the other side of the issue feel differently.

I tend to think that statements such as the one you just quoted by JM.....are basically telling others (that he DOES NOT agree with, mind you)......"what" THE problem is (In his opinion) ....and what THEY should do to correct it.

YOU agree with him.
Others don't.

It makes no difference to me if energy and time is being spent Debating pure Opinions.......but it does sadden me that this thread is Now 15+ pages long......unlike the original thread that sparked all this debate.

Seems out of balance somehow!

Any way, My take:
[color:"blue"]Give YOUR perspective to the author of a given thread and let THEM sort out the differing styles and perspectives. [/color]


Thankfully we already have mods.......if anyone wants to be one, then please contact the Harley's.

Next,
If you do disagree, then state it once or twice.......then move on.
ITS highly Unlikely YOUR GOING TO Change someone's mind on Here.
{sure haven't seen it happen very often ....if ever}

And I have to agree with Mel, on not real keen on the Jesus and JM comparisons.
Just not a good fit, IMO.
Should you disagree, so be it.