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Well, I can add one life lesson from my own personal saga.

Sometimes it's not the big things in life that make the difference, it's the little things. Take eyebrows for instance...

Eyebrows seem like a pretty insignificant thing; I mean compared with all the other hair on your body they are a small percentage. But they are very important. Yessireebob. If someone doesn't have eyebrows it changes the whole appearance of their face. They look odd, unfinished. I like eyebrows. In fact, I think you could even say that I love eyebrows. Yes, love is not to strong a word for the feelings I hold for eyebrows.

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She's only saying that because her DS#1 (age 11) shaved both of his off last night "to see what I'd look like," and now he's mad because he looks "like a geek." (His words) Of course, our hysterical laughter probably didn't help much. But it's hard to be convincingly sympathetic under those circumstances. Really. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Not that anybody actually tried very hard. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Pregnancy Q & A & more!

Q: Should I have a baby after 35?
A: No, 35 children is enough.

Q: I'm two months pregnant now. When will my baby move?
A: With any luck, right after he finishes college.

Q: What is the most reliable method to determine a baby's sex?
A: Childbirth.

Q: My wife is five months pregnant and so moody that sometimes she's borderline irrational.
A: So what's your question?

Q: My childbirth instructor says it's not pain I'll feel during labor, but pressure. Is she right?
A: Yes, in the same way that a tornado might be called an air current.

Q: When is the best time to get an epidural?
A: Right after you find out you're pregnant.

Q: Is there any reason I have to be in the delivery room while my wife is in labor?
A: Not unless the word "alimony" means anything to you.

Q: Is there anything I should avoid while recovering from childbirth?
A: Yes, pregnancy.

Q: Do I have to have a baby shower?
A: Not if you change the baby's diaper very quickly.

Q: Our baby was born last week. When will my wife begin to feel and act normal again?
A: When the kids are in college.

ESTROGEN ISSUES"
10 WAYS TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE "ESTROGEN ISSUES"
1. Everyone around you has an attitude problem.
2. You're adding chocolate chips to your cheese omelet.
3. The dryer has shrunk every last pair of your jeans.
4. Your husband is suddenly agreeing to everything you say.
5. You're using your cellular phone to dial up every bumper sticker that says: "How's my driving-call 1- 800-".
6. Everyone's head looks like an invitation to batting practice.
7. Everyone seems to have just landed here from "outer space".
8. You can't believe they don't make a tampon bigger than Super Plus.
9. You're sure that everyone is scheming to drive you crazy.

10. The ibuprofen bottle is empty and you bought it yesterday..


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Since we're having a little break, would you guys explain what "when the fat lady sings" means?

I don't quite get it.

BTW where's AW?


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Ok,

Had to disappear and live my (real) life for a few days, before I had a chance to come back and catch up with all of you!

I am going to try and do the quoty thing - because it's much easier to read; and I used to do it, but got out of practice, and this is a run on sentence on purpose!

After I repond to the irresistable postings I've read here, I have another brief story, in which I am expecting to hear, "You poor, pooooor, pooooor DEAR!" "I am so sorry to hear you went through that.....!"

But you can't say it until you hear the story, and it will have to come after I respond to a few posts way back!

Just letting you know in advance what your role needs to be! LOL!!! It will help be swing back emotionally to a more neutral position. I have been in a major SNIT, and now it's starting to seem funny, however I'm still not completely laughing...


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From "A Course In Miracles".
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She's one of those bossy "take-charge" nurse types that you just step back and watch in awe as she calls the shots!

Just what exactly are you implying here, CSue? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> What is this word "bossy" of which you speak? We do not have this word on my planet! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Nor "take-charge", either. Ask my daughters. THEY'LL tell you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The things they must teach you in nursing school!!! I am SURE they are survival skills to help deal with the enormous egos of the docs, the cranky patients, the staffing shortages, equipment failures, etc....but my sister's personality transplant was an amazing thing to see!

She went from a shy, quiet intellectual type to who I described above!!! I'm not complaining...I'm just in AWE!!


How ironic that, as you noted, even your dad's symptoms were in Clam. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Isn't that just too appropriate for words? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Glad you got him treated. You done good.

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Yes sigh....symptoms in clam! Thanks t&l - I feel like we did well too!

Sheesh, 1/2 of my answer disappeared!!! Cripes...

Well, I found the rest of my answer if you're all still with me! I'll keep practicing!

"The things they must teach you in nursing school!!! I am SURE they are survival skills to help deal with the enormous egos of the docs, the cranky patients, the staffing shortages, equipment failures, etc....but my sister's personality transplant was an amazing thing to see!

She went from a shy, quiet intellectual type to who I described above!!! I'm not complaining...I'm just in AWE!!"

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I was her nurse for all 3 babies. I delivered the Dervish myself, not because I intended to, but because when the Dr. arrived, he stood behind me and looked over my shoulder and said, when I told him to put on his gloves, "That's OK, you're doing a fine job. Go ahead."


The other 2 I just did nursing care. I'll tell more about that later, if you're really curious. With what's-his-name (#1--I can't remember what his MB nickname) it was pretty routine. With the Pwintheth, who was a pound bigger than her brothers, Neak got stuck at 8cm and was headed towards a c-section when I decided if I was going to intervene I'd better hurry...because once the day shift got there I wouldn't be able to take care of her any more and none of them would be aggressive in trying to head off a surgery. She delivered 6 minutes before the day shift started, so it was very, VERY close...and pretty uncomfortable for Neak for the last half hr. or so, although not as uncomfortable as 8 wks. of post-operative healing. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

We've talked about having this one at home, and if I knew there'd be no complications we could. It would be fine except for the mess afterwards, and no housekeeping services in sight! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> But when all's said and done, I think we'll head back to the same hospital as she went for all the others so we can have that emergency backup...just in case.

t&l

Being Neak's mom and her l&d nurse is really the best of all worlds! We discussed a home delivery for my boys as well, but my sister vetoed that idea right away. She spent too many years as a PICU nurse with all her horror stories to let me do a home delivery!

Let's see if my quoty skills have improved!


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Much better quoty skills!!! Have to go in a minute, but I'll be back!

I'm trying to work my way up to respond to Neak about her counseling!

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I forget what the fat lady always used to sing at the end of. The opera? The baseball game? The boxing match? Maybe some of the older people around here can fill in the missing information - it must have been before my time. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> But whatever it was the end of, it wasn't over until the fat lady sang.

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Thanks Neak. Maybe as you say one of the "older" (duck!) people will know at the end of what she sang!

But since we're on this subject, somebody once said on a thread not too long ago (I thought it was MM but I couldn't find it) that God tells you exactly when your marriage is over. I wanted to know what he meant.

Normally everyone says "it's not over until the fat lady sings!" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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I hate opera. However, this oldster does know how to Google! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> There are others available, but I picked this one from The Word Detective. If you have additional curiousities, I'm sure your computer Googles, too!

I have to get busy here and pack some suitcases, then go to JCPenney and get my dad some shirts that don't have any stains or spots on them. After that I'll just whip over to off to work to harrass a few suffering females, and hope they're calmer than my teeny, tiny Vietnamese pt. last night--who had the strongest thighs in a 3-state area and nearly pincered the Dr. to death during the delivery. It took 3 nurses and her husband to hold her legs open so the baby could get out! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> 2nd baby, too. You'd think it wouldn't have been such a surprise this time around.

I'm to that predictable point in trip preparation where I'm starting to wonder what the *(&^&$^%* I'm doing going anyplace anyway, because this is such a stupid idea. I'll be OK once I get there, but today and tomorrow I'll be spending a lot of time in some very serious questioning of my own sanity! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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Great Horned Songbird.

Dear Word Detective: Where did the expression "It's not over until the fat lady sings" come from? -- Steve Markley.

Good question, which, in the word-origins business, is short for "Good luck finding a definitive answer to that question." What we do know about "It's not over until the fat lady sings" is that it is an American catch-phrase meaning that victory (or defeat) is not certain until the contest is absolutely finished. As advice not to regard any half-baked situation as a done deal, "It's not over until the fat lady sings" is roughly equivalent to the venerable "Don't count your chickens until they're hatched" and very similar to Yogi Berra's famous 1973 dictum that "It ain't over till it's over." Despite the similarity, however, there is no evidence tying "It's not over until the fat lady sings" to Yogi.

There seems to be a strong likelihood that "It's not over until the fat lady sings" began as a reference to opera, especially the sort of Wagnerian epic that involves large women wearing helmets with horns. It is entirely possible, as has been suggested, that "It's not over until the fat lady sings" is the punch line to a long-lost joke that involved one or more unsophisticated patrons mistaking intermission for the end of the show and being informed on their way out, perhaps by an usher, that "The opera's not over until the fat lady sings." On the other hand, a pamphlet entitled "Southern Words and Sayings" published in 1976 contains the phrase "Church ain't out till the fat lady sings," so it's possible that church, not opera, was the original inspiration.

If we put the actual origin of the phrase aside for a moment and focus on how "It's not over until the fat lady sings" became popular, life suddenly becomes much easier. A sportswriter for the San Antonio Express-News named Dan Cook used the phrase in his column in 1976 and in TV commentary two years later to buck up fans of the San Antonio Spurs basketball team, then locked in the playoffs with the Washington Bullets. Bullets coach [censored] Motta adopted the phrase as his own, and by the end of the playoffs (which the Bullets won) "It's not over until the fat lady sings" was known all over America.

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BTW where's AW?

I think we scared her to death, and she's not speaking to us until her nerves settle down again! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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Well thank you!

I'm sure there are many here who had no idea.

I'll look up that "google" thing..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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I have another brief story, in which I am expecting to hear, "You poor, pooooor, pooooor DEAR!" "I am so sorry to hear you went through that.....!"

As Neaksis found out some pages back, it helps to say right up front just what you're expecting in way of response to any Tale of Woe! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Good thinking! I'll have to log on at work and read what you have to say, since as much fun as it is to sit at the keyboard and "chat," the suitcases are still empty! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

t&l

P.S. If it IS over when the fat lady sings, does this mean that this week at church I shouldn't participate in the opening song? Not a bad idea, though, since we're going to the Japanese church and that would mean we could go straight to the potluck (best in the Islands, too!). <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> "Good morning brothers and sisters. I'd like to welcome you to..."

t&l arises from the pew. "Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"In conclusion, let us pray." <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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My guess would be that God helps us to see when we have done everything we humanly can to save our marriage without the assistance of our spouses, and there finally comes a point where we must separate in order to preserve our sanity.

I don't know what happened to AW. Maybe she is trying to figure out whether to tell us the results of the P-test?

Wow, Mr. Eyebrows-Option-Box-Not-Checked looks far worse than all warnings could have prepared us for. Mom, are you coming over to visit?

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No, she's packing.


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You folks are hilarious!


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ok.


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Thing is AD, I read something soooooooooooooo funny on another thread I can't stop laughing!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

So I'm having fun <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

and keeping this thread on pg 1 for t&l. We don't want her upset just before she packs her bags! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Who knows what she might take <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


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