From Da Jesus Book - the Bible in Pidgen Hawaiian

The actual text of the translation speaks better than anything else. As found in Matthew 6:9-13, the Lord's Prayer:

God, you our Fadda.
You stay inside da sky.
We like all da peopo know fo shua how you stay,
An dat you stay good an spesho,
An we like dem give you plenny respeck.
We like you come King fo everybody now.
We like everybody make jalike you like,
Ova hea inside da world,
Jalike da angel guys up inside da sky make jalike you like.
Give us da food we need fo today an every day.
Hemmo our shame, an let us go
Fo all da kine bad stuff we do to you,
Jalike us guys let da odda guys go awready,
And we no stay huhu wit dem
Fo all da kine bad stuff dey do to us.
No let us get chance fo do bad kine stuff,
But take us outa dea, so da Bad Guy no can hurt us.
Cuz you our King.
You get da real power,
An you stay awesome foeva.
Dass it!?

We love Da Jesus Book!!!!!

In case anyone wonders, it is an actual, serious, used-to-read-up-front-in-church version.

I had never heard of it until today when our minister used a verse from it in his sermon today. The verse described Satan as a 'sly booga'. I thought it was a fabulous description. I want a copy. I think it would be a great way to get my language savvy teenagers to read the Bible.

I was going to write a few of my favorite texts, which take on such a wealth of meaning in pidgin, but I tink some kine pupuli keiki wen take Da Jesus Book out my hale, 'cuz I look and look but I no spock dat book nohow.


It can be purchased on Amazon.com--it's where I got mine, and will be getting another if I can't find this one tomorrow! It's very interesting to compare the texts. The KJV has rich language and a wealth of meaning, but the pidgin Bible brings to the New Testament a flavor all its own, and makes the texts come alive in a most interesting way. My grandkids love to have me read it to them, just to listen to me talk pidgin. My dad, the English teacher, loves to listen to in NOW. When I was a kid, pidgin was not nearly so welcome to be heard coming from my haole mouth, I can assure you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Great Bible. Interesting read.

t&l

Pio - I wonder whether for me, with the ongoing drama in my life, I come to Idiotville for a bit of stability(!) The last thread I was posting on 'for real' the lady has disappeared which is a terrible shame because her husband had attempted suicide. I'd love to know how things are going but, sadly, I have absolutely no way of making contact. (Neak-do you have any inside info on Zuj?)

Also, the only other person who appeared to agree with me re Jen has also disappeared (Grace 37). She has a sad past too. That is one very big disadvantage of getting too intimate on these boards. You might never know whether you were a help or a hindrance. (In my case, probably the latter!!)

TT,

I don't think you are to blame for anyone's situation going bad here. Most people who are here probably don't have the best chance of recovery anyway. Even with your current situation, I think your experience can add value. I wouldn't shy away from posting. This is a marriage building site. People here need to make decisions. Serious, life changing decisions. Your experience could be insightful for some. I would encourage you to read and post where you think your experience applies. And go back to IV to find your stability. People like believer do that as do others. I think you are selling yourself short if you think you cannot be of benefit to others.

Another book I have to get! Thanks Cinderella

I wish I had inside info on Zuj - if I had known she was going to disappear I would have asked. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I am hoping she is just really busy between hospital and having to do all kis pick-ups and drop-offs herself that she doesn't have time to come on right now. I hope she will again soon.

As to the thing with Jen, please don't let it get to you if you have a different opinion. I think it was Lady C who basically said that with a wide range of responses ranging from support of some friends (who of course were still encouraging her to tell), to some friends wielding hefty 2x4's, to others cutting her off immediately, Jen was bound to get the message she needed to hear, be it "easy" or "hard", or some of each.

I think some of the people posting to and about Jen were posting under different identities because they had so few posts at the time and they were so 'preachy'. I think they were already members who created identities so they could post more anonymously. They may have gone back to the comfort afforded by their prior identities.

But, I can't proove it.

And what do I know, I am just the princess - known for nothing but her beauty and fun-loving nature.

just like


"it" pronounced "eet" and it's sort of said all as one word--"dosseet." "That's it!" Makes a pretty good "Amen," don't you think? It could also, if asked as a question (dosseet?), mean, "Is that ALL?"

Very lively book.

t&l

well a good afternoon or evening as the time is in your little bit of heaven on earth. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Cold rainy 19 here today - thats 19c not F <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> - and alls not too bad in the AW household.

Uni is so so according to GD, they are doing something disgusting with bowels this week for some reason. tl how you got through nursing is beyond me, how my middle daughter got through med school is even more astounding. Well not really I guess, mind like a steel trap and emotionally a control freak, hehehe but we don't need to ever tell HER that. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

GD on the other hand is like her dad, cold calculating and always in control of himself for work related matters. Split personality types if you ask me <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I am sort of glad we usually use another doc in her practice for most things rather than my middle daughter. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
love her to heaps but not as my doc. lol
She relishes telling AW off just a wee bit too much if you ask me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Now talking about telling AW off. Well mums are allowed to because - well just because - you ask tl. anyway she fell asleep on the bus tonight on the way home and the nice bus driver gently woke her up and said " MISSUS ITS YOUR STOP LOV!!!!' apparently AW just about had another baby there and then lol
Mikey woke up with a start and off she trundles, Mikey in one hand, bags in another, looking like a refugee. And no keys to the car. Mobile Phone - battery dead. No public phone for 2 kms, no pram.
So she walks, and she walks. finally 6.40 pm, pitch dark I get a call , mum I'm at the shops can you get my spare car keys and come get me. Uheh yes, WHICH shops dear - anyway cut a long story short pick her up, drive back to the rail/bus station pick up her car, we drive back home.
it turns out she has been up to 4.00am every night since Aussie left writing some stupid letter she felt had to be just RIGHT.
SHe gets up at 6 am to go to work!! WHAT IN GODS NAME WAS SHE DOING DRIVING
Mamma laid down the law to baby chick in no uncetain terms believe you me!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

In the end I had to use the ultimate threat--- I'll tell Aussie --- so she would go to bed at 7.30 after I cooked her & the two amigo's tea. May as well since Grumpy who is retired is working up in the bush for a few days this week.

The silly woman gets herself so worked up and tells herself its all ok yadda yadda --- she was sound asleep at 7.31
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Mikey is also sound asleep but then as long as you keep him clean and feed him up hes no trouble 99% of the time. THAT usually starts at 2 years and continues until --oh about 40 years <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Hi AW's Mum--Doesn't having adult children give you ever-so-much more respect for your own parents? Or were you a perfect little saint, as I was? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Actually, I thought it was rather insulting of my mother to start turning gray immediately after I was born. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> As if one could possibly have something to do with the other! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> You keep riding herd on that girl. I think all mothers are border collies at heart. Or in your case, maybe an Australian sheep dog. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Herdherhdherdherdherd.............<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

t&l

Hey t&l, is this where Neak got her real name?

No, I never heard of Noni juice until she was a teenager, at least. Her legal name is Winona Elizabeth. Winona is an Indian name, in honor of her Native American heritage (on dad's side). It means "first-born daughter." Elizabeth was my mother's middle name. It means "consecrated to God." So basically, we named her first-born daughter, consecrated to God. But Winona Elizabeth was such a big name for such a little girl, so we pulled a snippet from each name and called her Noni Beth. Even that turned out to be too long of a name, as we got older and more harried, and so her dad's "Pongle-Bongle" became "Bong" and I eventually shortened it for me to "Nohn" (long o). Any shorter, and I'll have to just call her, "N-n." <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Her other childhood nickname was "Diarrhea Elizablatt." Can anyone guess why? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Hint: she was vaccinated with a phonograph needle by mistake! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

t&l

I guess you noticed that Elizablatt rhymes with gazorninplat.

No, I have to admit that, while you're very observant, I never, ever noticed that before. I don't think that, as a name, Diarrhea Gazorninplat has quite the same ring to it, though. Besides, I know what an Elizablatt is (and does)! Sure can't say that about a gazorninplat... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

t&l

lol
I had a good laugh over this , sorry dear neak I am being terrible I know <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />



There are no coincidences -- just clever mothers <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

tl I am watching the girl. I really didn't realise how much she has to still go to be truthful.
I have now realised she still feels that Aussie would do a runner at a drop of a hat if she so much as looks sideways at him.
That is very far from the truth.
However her insecurities are hurting her and must be unsettling for Aussie as well.

I may be wrong - how strange that is <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> - but seriously, I believe my dear girl needs to go back to counselling for a little while.
I still believe its about guilt and loss. So intertwined I don’t think they can be separated any more.

It is very melancholy for me to know two of my children’s lives have been infected by adultery and in addition one blighted by a child’s death.
It was not so long ago that they were all happy and full of joy and busy building their lives together.
I thought, Grumpy thought, that if we were taken tomorrow then all would be well. Now its like watching a painful illness creep through the family and we don’t know how their lives will be spent. Grandmothers lament I suppose.

And we cannot fix it, they will have to. However encouragement and support we CAN give. And a few 4 x 2’s
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Have you observed tl that when our two girls are a bit quiet that each seems to be having a hard time of it, even if only deep inside??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
I suppose it can only be that we are so used to hearing them nattering or observe them emailing left and right that its very obvious when they dont do that too much. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Sometimes tl I can almost feel your concern through your posts. However, I have great hope and some confidence in both our daughters, the hill is high but they ARE climbing it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

What better way than my GD prayer for her mum & dad that she wrote a few years ago (she was a VERY serious midteen - <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)

Dear St. Anthony, St. Jude, angel Raphael, Blessed virgin Mary and all the angels and saints, please hear my prayers for healing of my mum’s mind, soul, vision and fears, her anxieties, and helpless hopeless feelings, so she can carry out God's will for her. Please pray for our Lord to keep all my loved ones in his daily care. Please pray that He will hear all my prayers today. Pray for my dad to some home safe as he could not be here for my 16th birthday as I miss him so, amen


I still love that prayer <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Yes, when Elizablatt is upset, she becomes a verbal Constipationplat instead. I CAN'T think where she gets that from! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Often, after a difficult labor, the mother's first reaction when the baby comes out is to say, "Thank God, it's over." And they never stop to think that their real work has just begun, and that, if they take mothering seriously, as long as their children are alive, there will never come a time when they can actually sit down and relax and say, "Thank God, it's over." The actions and interactions of mothering, the whole dynamic of relating to your children, inevitably changes and evolves over time...but the concern, the watchful hoping, the yearning for the best for your babies never, ever goes away. And it hurts so much when things don't go well, and your heart just aches for the loss of their dreams for themselves, and yours for them.

Well, phooey, I'm making myself cry. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> What a droozlepuss I am lately! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I'm going to go have breakfast and start doing the laundry. THAT will fix everything! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

t&l

Hey T&L....

I just want you to know....you are important. You are valuable....and you are GOOD.

Anyway. Just thought you should know that.

- Kimmy

Hey T&L <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Big hug!!!!!!

Pity we're not nearer, or we could go have a coffee somewhere and laugh and cry a while....


Meanwhile I will pray for you and all mothers today at Church. Tomorrow you will feel the effects, I'm sure.