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She wasn't looking so good last I saw her.
AW, you're right! That's exactly it!
Sigh. Hasn't it been an hour yet?
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Well yes thats ok when its ME being the mother!!! tl sleep well I had better go to. Ok Aussie just got home I admit it <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Hey I have a secret, I have a secret ......... anyone who wants to make a mint invest in this town like this home I'm trying to get Aussie to shell out for..... however he said we'd have to sell the kids and mum to afford it <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ok ok I wasn't REALLY thinking about it...... honest <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> Boddington Property why you ask ???? welllll I heard today from a friend that the gold shelf they discovered there last year has just this week found to be a few times the size AND quality of the original Kalgoolie gold finds in the 1800's!!!! Just google Kalgoolie in Western Australia to see what that means it means lots of $$$$$$$$$ for some lucky investors but also due to the lack of housing, when this gets out watch the housing boom go ka-boom!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> of course "caveat emptor" gang, it may all be rumour. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Neak whats the go? Any answer? I'm waiting , anxious, hopping one foot to the other fingers crossed, waiting waiting waiting this is costing me a foot rub I have you know <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Oh, that is pretty! I have at least heard of Kalgoolie. My brother has had gold fever since he was 8 or 9, so I know way more than is useful, more than I thought I ever would, and waaaaaay more than I want to, about all kinds of gold stuff. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Nothing yet. Go get your foot rub, and check in after a while. I hope he calls before your bedtime! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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I am sure antsy, too. Actually, I feel more like a flea.
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Ok, just got off the phone, not too bad.....working on a more detailed post.
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Points of the conversation:
Moses - the members of the committe unanimously would like to see the parts about Moses removed. (Except for the Transfiguration, I am assuming.) It's not even so much that they didn't like it, but just found it confusing, trying to remember what Moses was doing in the story when he suddenly appeared again. All issues of WHETHER they should have been confused aside, it's a sure bet that if they were confused, [no adjectives inserted] readers will be too.
Peter’s family conflicts - the editor said he understood that I was trying to show a real change in the lives of Peter's family, and he was not asking me to take it all out, but the committe had spent a good deal of time talking about this, and had concerns. To distill about 10 minutes of conversation, it needs to be toned down still further. He asked me to:
1. Keep in mind the (delicate) sensibilities some of the older people may have.
2. Remove the “wife is like a boil” comparison – women on the committee were offended, bwaaaaaaaaaa! ROFLADMHWM!!!!! (rolling on the floor laughing and drumming my heels with mirth) I will take that out cheerfully, and just add it into the deleted scenes portion of my website, once I have a deleted scenes portion of my website.
Jesus' dialogue – most critical (and criticized) element of any book of this type. He said this is where they are the most likely to get complaints, if there are any. He did not have any specific changes to recommend with this, but just asked me to look at each area where I supplied Jesus with dialogue that was not specifically indicated by the Scriptures, and see if I saw anything that might need to be changed, keeping in mind that they are likely to get all kinds of letters complaining, "He never said that!" Well, I will keep that in mind.
The committee was divided on the conversational aspect, i.e. using a modern conversational style for the characters. The editor said he personally liked it very much, and felt it kept the reader from being distracted every time they came to something that is different from our common speech. I believe the nice descriptive term he used was "flow". He thought those that didn't like it as well might just have generational issues. I think that is a nice way of saying they are old and set in their ways, lol.
Writing was great – not an issue. Hooray! He said the writing was of a very high quality. What a nice, nice man!
He said the vote on the book was going to be split by a very narrow margin (he did not say which way, but I am guessing maybe not in my favor, quite), so they decided to hold off on voting till their next meeting on 7/25, talk to me, and see how willing/able I am to resolve the issues that are causing the split.
It sounded as if I did not even necessarily have to just give in across the board, although I'm sure my best chance would be to conform as closely as possible to what they are looking for. Honestly, as long as they don't mess with my angels (too much), I don't care so much about the rest.
The Moses thing is cool, and certainly no one in MY family was confused, or had trouble following that particular sub-plot, but I think it would be fine without it, too.
Basically, the editor is trying to recommend changes which, even if some of the things he liked fine the way they are, would be the most acceptable to the largest group of people. He said that Celeste perrino Walker, an author I have enjoyed since the days of my youth, has a book out or just coming out, I forget which, where some people are refusing to read it because of one sentence in it, and believing that she interprets a Bible belief wrongfully because of that one sentence. Well, people are weird.
We both agree that you just do the best you can, knowing that you're not going to please everybody.
Oh, pending whatever alterations I am willing to make, he seemed quite optimistic about my acceptance. Assuming it is accepted, he said it would be in their spring lineup.
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Way to go NEAK !!!!
I hope it works out in a way that you are happy with it.
T&L,
Dreams can be about our fears.
They can be about our desires, or our hopes.
I think they can be about nothing at all too.
If I had to be the once to say what yours was - I don't think I would choose the last one.
They can be a guide to help make choices.
We can think about them, or ignore them. Sometimes they can help, sometimes not. Sometimes they are neutral.
If there is a message in yours, God would know. Ask him - what have you to loose?
AW, you should purchase the property. 8 acres is big enough for all of us to camp. We can come and pan for gold. I'm sure you could feed us all for a year or two until we struck it rich?
Cinderella, what in the world is up?
SS
I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
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SS - thank you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Even though no writer exactly likes to have their baby hacked up even a little bit, after reflection it occurs to me that the concerns the publisher is bringing up are based on many years of experience (ok, well I knew that much already), and that the same issues they raised would affect me even if I self-published. The same cranky people would write in regardless, but if I self-published, they would be sending their dislike letters to me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
And since they liked the angels, and want to keep the message of the book intact, just maybe from a different perspective in some of the places, I think it will be all good.
Mom, it's too late to change my mind. I already took the introductory chapter about Moses, and submitted it to Amazon Shorts as a story in its own right. Be sure to ask me for the full story on Celeste. I didn't want to waste too much time typing here about her, when I could have spent the time typing about myself, lol.
Hey, camping and gold panning at AW's new house sounds like oodles of fun. Count us in!
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Oh, and here is a photo of my lovely daughter on the 4th of July, just after being stung 3 times in the face by a wasp. One between her lips and nose, one on her upper lip, and one on her lower lip. Neaksis and I ran her down, tackled her, and dragged her back to be photographed. (Natural sympathy is often lacking in our family group.) It is too bad it was blurry, but our hostess took it and didn't use the flash. The rest are blurrier. So, drum roll............ The Princess Kisses a Wasp
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Poor little deformed thing.
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Abuse !
ABuse !
LOL, I have been there, and it hurts more on the face than on..... say, the rear.
Is she back to normal now?
SS
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Oh, Neak, I'm so happy for you. I hope you will change what the publishers want. To me, it matters more that your wonderful writing is read, than to have EXACTLY what you started out with.
I loved your other book, and still think about it.
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Well, I'm up and about to hit the books, but wanted to see what happened with Neak's book first. I'm not sure I agree about the whole Moses thing. In fact, I'm sure I don't. A lot of the stuff in there drives the plot, and it would be diminished by taking the information out. As far as the conversational stuff, my position would be if they want to read exactly what Jesus said in the Gospels, and nothing more, they should go back and read the Gospels again! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> All amplifications are, by their very nature, amplified!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Besides, once people buy the book, if they want to write complaining letters, does it really matter to you? Having said all that, it's your book, your baby, and your decision to make. We can still self-publish if they turn it down, or if they want to carve it up out of all recognition. You need to re-read your Moses stuff before you decide whether or not to delete it. I hate CPR class. Of course, I hated ACLS in January, and will hate NRP in August, WORSE! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> t&l
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Just don't hurt the books too bad T&L. Someone else may need to use them too. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
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I could be wrong (well, it's theoretically possible, you know! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />), but I think that's the first time SS ever used an emoticon on this thread...maybe on any thread. Just goes to show that anyone is corruptible, if they hang around long enough! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> Gonna BEAT THE STUFFING out of that book. It's ruining my day. Why can't I ruin its? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> t&l
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<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
I think I have used them before.
Just remember, I'm a guy. Not quite a clam, but close.
SS
BTW, aren't you suppposed to be studying?
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Sh-h-h-h-h. I am studying, and I've already taken the shrink-wrap off the book, even. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> t&l P.S. Inside, there is a CD with video clips. I'm going to watch that first. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It is NOT goofing off. That's what the book said to do, and said it would help. Who cares? Postponement is postponement, no matter the format! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
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So you'll get right to it after you pop the popcorn?
Fix your glass of water - or whatever you drink?
Adjust the chair to make it comfy?
Go to the Loo?
(That one was for all our overseas friends)
Well, have fun. I have a meeting to go to.
Ta Ta !
SS
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