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A lady called Dr. Laura today and said that her husband had an affair 25 years ago. He claims that nothing happened but there was definitly an emotional connection. Anyway, the OW has popped in and out of their lives for the past 25 years, calling him for "business reasons". Apparently the lady has told her husband that she doesn't want him to have contact with the OW but he's not doing that. Now the OW has moved 1/2 mile away from their home. Her husband told her that she should bake cookies for the OW.
The lady's question to Dr. Laura was should she stay, knowing that something still is going on. Dr. Laura pretty much spun it around and made her to blame for it all. She admits that she wasn't the most loving wife, more of a friend, but Dr. Laura made it out to be mostly her fault. When the lady tried to explain more Dr. Laura hung up, saying that she couldn't help her anymore.
I find this quite sad. Even if the woman was a fault for the lack of love in the relationship, the husband continued to have contact. I would think he should be held accountible for that.
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Dr. Laura is a judgmental, hypocritical b&%$ch. So I am not surprised. Her show is less about helping people and all about making people feel stupid and inadequate.
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Judgemental I can live with. Hypocritical is not that big of a deal.
Unqualified is a problem.
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I must mostly disagree. Laura is not hypocritical. Look up the word.
She is in fact a licensed clinical and family therapist, so she is qualified.
She does, in my opinion, frequently give incorrect advise to victims of infidelity, as mentioned above.
Yes, she is judgemental, but what's wrong with that?
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Sounds like a sensationalist.
Combine that with a few second/minute phone interview live for the public, giving quick advice about infidelity, and I guess I'm surprised she hasn't been charged with accessory 2 a murder (or suicide) for that kind of "advice."
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Whatever certificates she has, this is an entertainment medium, and should be viewed accordingly.
"Virtue -- even attempted virtue -- brings light; indulgence brings fog." -- C.S. Lewis
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'Dr.' Laura - yes, I know she is doctorally prepared - in physiology, I think - is NOT a therapist.
She is a provocateur.
And (thank you, 2Long) a sensationalist.
She helps no one, except herself and her radio stations.
I do not know why ANYONE listens to her.
Take this case in point:
BS of 25 yrs. asks for help. And...GETS BLAMED.
How helpful. NOT.
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She is a California *licensed* marriage and family therapist.
Those of you slamming her have most likely never listened to her and are getting your information second or third hand.
She most definately does not suffer fools, so yes, she can be aggressive and quick with some callers.
Listen to her, or read one of her books, you might be surprised at what *she* says rather than what some group says about her.
She helps alot of people and does a great deal of good in the world.
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I must mostly disagree. Laura is not hypocritical. Look up the word.
She is in fact a licensed clinical and family therapist, so she is qualified.
She does, in my opinion, frequently give incorrect advise to victims of infidelity, as mentioned above.
Yes, she is judgemental, but what's wrong with that? Unless she has renewed it lately, her license has lapsed, so no, she is not a licensed marriage and family therapist. One advantage of having licensure is that it insures that the person holding the license must keep up with new information in her field. You cannot be sure someone with a lapsed license is doing so.
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Dr. Laura has her Phd in Physiology...she did some post graduate work in family and marriage therapy...but does not have a degree in that. Her first marriage was a disaster. She hasn't spoken to her mother in decades. And not too long ago...nude pictures were published of her. But you know what....none of that matters as much as the fact that this woman is just mean to the bone. She's all about the ratings....and nothing about real "caring".
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Those of you slamming her have most likely never listened to her and are getting your information second or third hand. This wasn't meant as a slam. I went on the Harleys' radio program -- twice -- with my sitch. (If we ever did recovery, I'd call for an appointment -- but there were too few encouraging signs in my Plan B to spend the bucks.) I was keenly aware that, although the advice was good, they were also experienced broadcasters, knowing how to wind things up for a commercial breaks. I was aware that my situation was entertainment for hundreds, if not thousands, of listeners. Just the way it is. If you are not willing or able to spend the dough for good counseling, you can take your chances in the entertainment industry. But don't forget that the "clients" are the listeners, not the callers.
"Virtue -- even attempted virtue -- brings light; indulgence brings fog." -- C.S. Lewis
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The nude pictures were taken by her lover, who happened to be married at the time (and not to her). Yes, she is a hypocrite. . . and an ill-mannered one at that. This married man was the one that leaked the photos, to "expose" her hypocrisy. If I remember right, he did this after listening to her slam a young woman for doing the same thing, sleeping with a married man. I think she called her a whore, tramp, the whole nine-yards.
How may marriages has she had anyway? Two, Three?
Some things that she says are insight-full , but really, people in glass-houses shouldn’t . . .
What we think or what we know or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is what we do. ~ John Ruskin
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hypocrite n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold She obviously has grown and changed from the person she was when those pictures were taken. She is not a hypocrite. Her first marriage was a disaster. She hasn't spoken to her mother in decades. Same here. So what. Her mother is as useless as my mother. She is ill mannered (2x4) to those who need it. Once again, I challenge you detractors to listen to her for a week and see if what you think about her matches up to what you hear her say.
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I heard her for more than a week. I was appalled at how she jumps to conclusions without hearing the caller out. Not to mention her wacked out ideas about divorce and remarriage!
I heard her tell one man he should divorce his second wife and remarry the first, because she was the mother of his children. There was no discussion of the reasons they were divorced.
Later, I think in the same hour, she advised somebody else to divorce a cheating spouse. No discussion, just, "you'll never trust him again."
She didn't seem to see any irony in her positions, but it occurred to me to wonder whether first wife ended up divorced because she was a cheater.
Unless Dr. Laura learns to listen instead of going off half-cocked, her advice is worse than useless. It's right just often enough that people trust her. And then she spews a boatload of garbage.
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I HAVE listened to her....that's why I simply CANNOT stand her. She is a disrespectful, crass, horrid woman who is gets her audience by creating drama and insult. Larry King once asked her how she can preach to others that they must follow the 5th Commandment, "Thou Shalt Honor Thy Father and Mother," while she herself is not on speaking terms with her own mother. "That looks like the definition of hypocrisy," he observed. Laura ducked, parried, blushed and grimaced. Her most definitive answer to questions about why she and Most Honorable Mama are estranged (which means, I suppose, that her beloved son doesn’t get to see his grandmother) was: "Things are often more complex than that." Did I hear "complex?" She who asserts that things are black and white, right and wrong, good and evil for everyone else, pleads complexity when it comes to herself....puhleeze David Bernstein writes on the Volokh Conspiracy that there is a certain contradiction involved:
[O]ne thing that's always bothered me about Dr. Laura is the way she pounces on callers who tell her they don't believe in God. She goes on and on about the importance of raising God-fearing children, and of having God in one's own life, as if one can simply persuade oneself to believe in God when one doesn't. Dr. Laura has now lost her faith, if not in God then in the view of God she had adopted. She apparently could not follow her own advice and just will herself to believe.
Similarly, Dr. Laura is very big on following through on one's commitments, on integrity. Callers racked with emotional turmoil call her, and she tells them they must fulfill their obligations, regardless of their "feelings." Because, she says, it's all about integrity, not feelings. Yet Dr. Laura has now broken her own commitment to Orthodox Judaism, a commitment to God Himself to follow the commandments. Why? Because of her feelings.
* Laura and the Sanctity of Marriage: Laura started dating her current husband, Lew Bishop, while he was still married to someone else and lived with him for nine years before they got married.10
* Laura and Family Values: she has not spoken to her mother in 15 years and is estranged from her sister.11
* She claims that women with young children should stay home rather than have a career, but she is on the radio five days week and recently began a television show, in spite of the fact that she has a teenage son at home.
* She will not discuss her past on her show, claiming that it is irrelevant now, but, as several critics have pointed out, she refuses to take responsibility for her "wild" past and angrily dismisses charges of hypocrisy. Sorry....I've taken the "challenge" and she sickens me.
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I, too have listened to her, and have found her cruel.
I realize these shows are entertainment, but seriously! This woman is over the top.
If you want to listen to an honest-to-goodness therapist, who really helps her caller, tune in to Dr. Joy Brown.
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I think she's going senile in her old age. She hasn't spoken to her mother in decades.She's not a psychic. Her mom died two years ago & they hadn't reconciled their differences. She is a California *licensed* marriage and family therapist.Actually, no, she isn't. Her license is delinquent as of February 28, 2005.(Renewal fees and compliance with the continuing education requirement (if applicable) are past due; or the licensee/registrant has chosen not to renew. NOTE: The license/registration is expired, and no practice is permitted while the license is delinquent/expired.)
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Some of her advise is spot on but then sometimes she says stuff that completely shocks me. I would never EVER call her show because odds are she wouldn't be too kind.
I remember a woman called saying that her marriage is miserable. She then mentioned in the conversation that she was overweight. Dr. Laura reduced this poor woman to tears over the airwaves, berating her for her weight problem. So sad.
I wonder why people call her in the first place if they know they are going to be put down.
Come to think of it - why am I still listening to her????
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Because it's entertainment.
"Virtue -- even attempted virtue -- brings light; indulgence brings fog." -- C.S. Lewis
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It's sad this woman felt that calling Dr. Laura or any other call in for advice show would be a good idea. Given that I as well as others understand how desperate one can get in a bad situation.
Dr. Laura's mother passed away and was dead several days before anyone knew. I've known some really wonderful people who haven't had a good relationship with a parent and some people I considered of questionable character have wonderful relationships with a parent. To judge her on that matter is not good.
I think Dr. Laura does some good, i.e. exposure of the Library associations who promote pornography to be freely viewed irregard of children being present, I find her abrasive at times and intolerant of details. Our local radio station that aired her received so many complaints that she was removed. Late at night I can sometimes find her on a remote station and it reminds me why I'm glad she is gone.
She reminds me of a young person who thinks they have lived enough life to know everything...I remember when I was there. Then as one ages, they realize how little they actually understand. Dr. Laura doesn't seem to have developed that maturity. It's as if I'm listening to a 28 year old who has seen bits of life and become rigid in her thoughts and understanding.
I am hopeful that this woman did not take Dr. Laura's words to heart. It she realizes Dr. Laura was once an ow, maybe she'll understand the reply.
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