...ever have experience with SH while still in contact with OP and still in the fog?

I'm feeling down and burnt out this morning; wondering if Prince Charming will ever totally give up Skunkypoo. I am beginning to realize that their A was probably even longer than I thought.

Prince Charming has agreed to talk to SH and I've arranged an appointment for him on Monday. If any FWS could tell me what this was like for them, I'd appreciate it. Did it make you feel manipulated by your BS? Did what SH have to say to you make sense and give you hope for a great marriage with your BS?

I'm the BS but my then WS had 1 session with Steve and the WS was very much in the fog. Get this, the WS didn't want to talk with Steve, grumbled up a storm. I told him ok, don't talk, howz about listening, he grumbled about that, I said ok, then I'll have a session since I know at least I am interested in hearing what Steve had to say.

1st sessions are more fact finding for Steve but in our 60 minute session, I got 5 minute intro, 5 minute closing and 7 minutes of 1 on 1 time with Steve. Guess who took up the rest of the time? You got it, the grumbler.

WS came off the phone and said he didn't like Steve (guess that's because Steve is a MB guy - LOL!!! ). WS' are non MB material. Kinda like water and oil. LOL!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Even with the attitude, Steve told me to plan A until I was ready to plan B. Steve could see right through all that fog and gave me hope. I will always be indebited to Steve for that 1 session.

Realize no one can teach a WS but the session with Steve was priceless in my books. Even if the H now doesn't recognize how beneficial it was, it was. I know so. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

L.

Orchid, thanks.

In what way do you think it was beneficial?

Did it inspire hope for the M in WH? Did it shine light through the fog?

Just a quick reply. It helped me see I was not the crazed one. It also helped the WS see even while in the fog that I was not the crazed one.

Because of that foundation, I developed the tools to move forward. Taking poc shots at the A and causing damage (causing the OP and WS to LB each other) from afar. Often without even lifting my finger. LOL!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I learned to use the reverse babble techinique and it gave me strength while tearing down the A. The A is a strong wall of defense the OP and WS put up around them. The BS needs to realize the WS and OP are a team while the H & W are a team. See where the inner struggle happens? At that level and with that knowledge, the BS can learn to use their wit and wisdom to protect the BS and family while firing missiles of love through the fog.

JMHO,
L.