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Momto3Boys #1426591 07/16/05 03:47 PM
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maybe THIS time the SEEKER will listen...

When does one recognize that a situation has develop into a pattern?

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maybe THIS time the SEEKER will listen...

When does one recognize that a situation has develop into a pattern?

When you do it over and over again with the same results!



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<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

and also

if there is some sort of payoff for the pattern

"SEE ... they are STILL at fault no matter how many times I try ... they keep ignoring me and won't listen to reason."

.... go off feeling vindicated ~and~ superior!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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No problem, BR. It gave me a chance to write out more thoughts I was having anyway. Writing always helps me to put my random thoughts in some order.

So... thank you <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Do not ask the Lord to guide your footsteps if you are not willing to move your feet.
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<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Hi Kandi,

I think you pointed out the problem:

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HELPER posting is that the HELPER wants so badly to get into the SEEKERS head so maybe THIS time the SEEKER will listen...

I like the definition of insanity - which is when we do the same thing over and over expecting THIS time a different result...

Thats why we all need to examine ourselves. A group inventory is a good thing to have once in awhile.

It is an ego thing I think, to think that THIS time, *I* will be the one, with my brilliant, clever wisdom, to clear the fog from the eyes of the poster.


~ Pain is a given, misery is optional ~
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ok you guys are all just too fast for me to keep up.

Me and my slow eyes and fingers that keep getting all twsited up!


~ Pain is a given, misery is optional ~
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ok you guys are all just too fast for me to keep up.

Me and my slow eyes and fingers that keep getting all twsited up!

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

now I feel superior!

at last! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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ok you guys are all just too fast for me to keep up.

I know! I left to go rug shopping and now the thread is pages long! And you know us "southerners"...we are so slow. By the time I've thought through a reply or a comment on something, someone has already said it pages back! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Great thread! I've learned from this.

Susan <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


Money can buy you a fine dog, but only love can make him wag his tail. ~ Kinky Friedman
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Lol let me remind you uppity Superior-feeling Queens, that I am a Goddess after all.

So there.


~ Pain is a given, misery is optional ~
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LOL

speaking of drama ... look who just showed up!

coincidence????

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LOL

speaking of drama ... look who just showed up!

coincidence????


<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I know hunny who you are talkin' about...and it ain't me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Even though I just showed up. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Susan <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


Money can buy you a fine dog, but only love can make him wag his tail. ~ Kinky Friedman
Pepperband #1426603 07/16/05 04:25 PM
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I am asking the rest of us to take a look at ourselves with self-critical eyes.


I certainly can't speak for everyone here, but I continue to post advice to such people out of a desire to prevent them from making choices that I have made that caused me or those I love grief, pain, or harm.

I post to them because I see the path they are headed down and I recognize the danger signs, having been down that same path myself.

I post to them out of hope that I can "save" them the trouble of having to discover the outcome themselves.

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I certainly can't speak for everyone here, but I continue to post advice to such people out of a desire to prevent them from making choices that I have made that caused me or those I love grief, pain, or harm.

I don't know if any of us can "prevent" anything ... but we sure can post [color:"red"]DANGER [/color] or [color:"red"] WARNING [/color] signs all over the place.

We all tend to learn thing the hard way ... by ignoring the warnings of others.

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I don't know if any of us can "prevent" anything ...


Maybe not, but sometimes you sure do wanna try, huh?
(at least I do)

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Hey guys, Coach is back.

Speaking of drama.....


Married 1976
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Maybe not, but sometimes you sure do wanna try, huh?
(at least I do)

Well ... I am looking at this a bit differently lately ... all I can do is offer myself as is ... and that is all I can do.

Should I want to focus is on patterns of interactions that are not really useful to anyone?

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Should I want to focus is on patterns of interactions that are not really useful to anyone?


Of course not.

Who determines it's not useful? Not useful to whom? How is it determined?

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It slays me pep. I'm suckered in every time.

Bob

Why are you suckered in? This woud be useful to know..

After my experiences It hurts me when I see BS value themselves so low. Really hurts me.


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Should I want to focus is on patterns of interactions that are not really useful to anyone?


Of course not.

Who determines it's not useful? Not useful to whom? How is it determined?

that is my question ... and the only thing I can come up with is

patterns..... what ruler do you use?

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