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Time for a new THREAD! WW sent a long "ME ME ME" E-Mail last week, and has now resorted to calling outside of her lawyer because this is soo expensive. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> She started in with the load of bulls$#@ about she KNEW how much money I had in accounts, and she KNEW my parents were helping me. SO WHAT! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> She further procceded to explain to me that S18s college tuition was due next week and she didn't have any money to do it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> REALLY?? "Afterall, you only have one son, I have two." <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> (I adopted S18 after we were married) THAT pissed me off. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Now, she wants to expedite the separation of assests without the lawyers to save money and time so SHE can take care of S18. There was a lot of self serving rhetoric in her statements, with an offhanded threat that if we don't do it this way, we'll just have to sell all three of the properties. She even mentioned, "have you seen how much houses cost in our neighborhood?" Haven't looked lately. Another threat. Have I ever mentioned that I really HATE being threatened. Makes me stubborn. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> If she tries to pull that, I'll just let my lawyer pull up all of the 401Ks and pension plans to work those into the equation. Her pension and 401Ks have more money in them for various reasons. This is SOOOO ugly. Why do WS feel they're so self righteous and justified in what they do?? Is it part of the self protection mechanism so they don't have to look at how ugly they've become? I started into my "This wouldn't have been so expensive if she hadn't started filing legal motions against me" speach. She tried to argue about me hiring a lawyer, and that's where I just hung up. I didn't want to try and justify myself to an alien who wouldn't believe me if I told her the truth. She's already justified a story in her tiny brain. She finally realized this is really expensive and wants ME to be nice and do it her way. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> SHE wants to propose the house values (because appraisers are expensive) on all of the properties. She wants to come up with the furniture values... There had better be something in it for me to compensate for all of the higher lawyer bills I had to pay to protect myself from her outrageous court actions! Ahhh. She's calling back now. I'm done talking for now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Me 41
WS 39
DS 19, DS 9
DDay 2/25/05
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Grrrrr....
Time for some serious action....
Change the answering machine message, next time she calls...
Ring, Ring
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"Hello, SIS is not at home or if this is SISW, is not answering the phone. I am concerned my WW has been taken over by aliens because I can't understand a WORD she says and she has been acting so funny. Please leave a message, but if you are WW, please get an interpreter first so I can understand what you are saying."
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SIS,
Haven't posted to you in a while...If she has a 401k, she likely is able to borrow money against the balance or take a partial withdrawal. Certainly, that would enable her to pay DS18's tuition and the amount she borrows/withdraws could be deducted from her ultimate share of the marital assets. Given the way she and DS18 have treated you, my reaction would be to just keep saying the word, "Consequences." Your WW and DS18 are now feeling the consequences of their actions and will just have to be patient until the divorce runs its course or she gets so uncomfortable that it wakes her up and brings her out of the fog.
Re: the cost of a lawyer, appraisals, etc...let the experts handle it all - would you take out your own appendix? No...and, by the way, neither do the docs - they hire someone to do it for them. Even though I am an attorney and could very easily have represented myself, I spent the money to hire a lawyer to represent me.
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SiS, stay clear! Wifezilla will destroy all that lies in her path!
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Sleepless, Can you can tell her that if she wants to discuss any legal matters, she needs to contact your lawyer directly, not you? Do you really think she would be cooperative about dividing the assets/debts without lawyers involved? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />). I think she is trying to make you out to be the bad guy and make you feel guilty, to get her way. I also think she is using the same intimidation method my WH likes to use with me: "I guess we'll have to sell everything...blah, blah, blah." I like SHMI's answering machine message. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Me 40, STBXWH 43
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D-day 01/25/05
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Haven't posted to you in a while.. I know! Missed you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I have another question regarding removing a child from the country without the other parent's consent. Even though the restraining order gave custody of DS8 to WW for the short term, U.S. Customs was willing to stop WW at the border and hold DS8 in protective custody without having a court order served against her. Is there a law about removing a child out of the country without parental consent when there is shared custody? I keep using the word abduction in lieu of kidnapping, but I'm wondering if she violated any Federal laws. Thanks
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SiS, stay clear! Wifezilla will destroy all that lies in her path! I'm pulling on the asbestos undies graycloud!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> I'm sorry S18 got caught in the suckhole. He'll come out the other side wiser. He's a smart kid. His emotions are running high right now. He'll figure it out. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Confirmed Pebbles. WW sent a reply to my E-Mail and phonecalls. First I wanted to correct the record that I did NOT hire a lawyer to take action againt WW, but to revise our parenting plan and have it reviewed by a professional. We did the first one ourselves. My lawyer was hired on April 26th to fill out a revised parenting plan. I told her that you and I were working on this together, and I only wanted to
change DS8 finishing the school year, in Seattle, and to spend the summer in Europe pending the completion of the divorce in August. She will testify that I wanted absolutely nothing else from her. She wanted to file the plan, I said no, not until you and I agreed. My business with her was concluded.
When I tried to contact you on Sunday to explain my proposal, you did not pick up calls, and you would not talk on Monday. You did exactly what I told my lawyer I would not do to you because I promised you I wouldn't. Trying to
do the right thing has cost me a LOT of money.
You need to talk with your lawyer because she proposed to my lawyer that we liquidate everything. (WW said we should ID the property values and split the assets) You're mixing up your stories, so you need to get them straight.
End of story. This was after I quietly hung up on her and told her not to call me "Sweetie" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> (WW lawyer) and I are straight on our story...Liquidation of assets is THE clean and simplest way to a 50-50 solution. However, we can do it without actually selling. I will propose that through my lawyer tomorrow. Was the letter in the mail that S18 and I saw REALLY the parenting plan? Or was it another formal action that you are lying to me about? (If it was a formal action, you WOULD have been arrested when the police found you Sunday night!!) Sleepless, why was the lawyer necessary to fill out a revised parenting plan? We did the first ourselves (While I had been saying let's at least let a lawyer fill it out so we don't screw it up!!!), you could have proposed a second to me. (I TRIED YOU WERE FILING LEGAL ACTIONS AGAINST ME!!!) It all doesn't matter now. I want to resolve this as simply and quickly as possible to minimize the cost to both of us. I have two sons to support that are dear to me. You only have one ( <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />) that you seem to be concerned about. I think this is all really sad. (At least she got that right... oh, she meant I'M really sad... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />) In the future, I hope we can have conversations without you hanging-up on me. (If you stop talking like an alien... maybe) Think about it....WWJD? (I will not respond, I will not respond, I will not.....Anyone near WW, look out for lightning! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />) She's so arrogant, there's no way she will propose a fair plan.
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SHMI - I like the answering machine. I have to be nice for now. Court order says that WW should have unlimited reasonable phonecalls to DS8. I could put a neat message on there to be played after 10:00 PM, and before 6:45 AM. But then, my lawyer says not to piss her off. Decisions decisions. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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One more thing! She always likes to call when it's convenient for her. I was in the middle of the executive offices (There was a potluck) and didn't need to be taking up my valuable time to talk to her, or answer her questions on my lunch hour!
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Okay, SIS,
Next time WW asks you to consider WWJD, please respond, "Well, as I recall, he instructed us to keep his father's commandments and, as I recall further, one of those commandments was 'Thou shalt not commit adultery." So, that's what I think JWD.
Also, don't know the answer to your question re: custody and taking a child out of the country. If it isn't in anything already ordered by the court, make sure your attorney asks that the final order include language around one parent taking DS out of the country without the other parent's knowledge and consent.
Regards,
BB
PS - Can't post this on its own - need to hide it in someone else's thread - XH and OW split up yet again - only makes about the 100th time.
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Thanks BB. I thought about responding with what Jesus would do, but I just bit my tongue. Aliens don't understand you know. PS - Can't post this on its own - need to hide it in someone else's thread - XH and OW split up yet again - only makes about the 100th time Just proving again that what he did was a terribly bad idea! Not shocking. I'm sure my WW won't be able to sustain a relationship with any man inside marriage in her current state of mind. It doesn't make the split any happier. Sleepless
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