Folks

Relate is not a pro-marriage service in my experience. I have discovered why.

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PLEASE try Marrigecare first as they are PRO marriage.

Thanks

Bob

Where is this quote from?

The Daily mail. Click on 'click here for full article' to read it. ( I changed URL name from 'clicky' to make clearer).

i heard on radio4 this morning that relkate have called for mothers day and fathers day to be chaged to 'special person' day so as notto offend children who don't know who their parents were.

I researched this nonsense on the web and found this interesting article.

Hi Bob,

I don´t know if seeking help back in the UK for me & Brenda is ever going to be on the cards, but it would be nice to know that a good resource is available. I certainly wouldn´t want to go to relate if they´re not going help you work hard on the marriage first. If you talk about "happy divorce" right from the start, this is bound to be self-fulfilling. I want to set us up to win on this one, not get the runners-up medal.

I´m pro-marriage but not at any cost. If, despite all best efforts, it´s not going to work, then (& only then) you can talk about making parting as painless as possible. Your comments about relate are noted.

Trouble is, I´m not a christian. My faith would be best described as a humanist. There´s both good and bad in humankind but I believe that the inherent goodness in the majority will usually prevail.

I note that marriagecare is a catholic-based organisation, which to me implies a full swing of the pendulum away from the Relate ethos to the opposite extreme. A pragmatic balance is what I need.

WS & I are not going to stay in a relationship because God says we should. I would want to stay because a good marriage with a miraculous woman is the very best goal any man can strive for. I had that for a long time & don´t want it to stop. Any strengh & wisdom I need will have to come from myself & my friends & loved ones.

Don´t get me wrong...many of my MB brothers & sisters have faith & I can see how it helps them deal with their own demons & help others to do so. If there´s any of that help & support going spare, I & many other MB lost souls are going to need it & I hope that we have the chance to pay some help back into the MB bank to help others in the future.

I´m realistic though that if we ever get the chance to build a new relationship, I´ve got to be prepared that, depite goodwill on both sides, it might not work out, but at least we could then walk away with dignity and be at peace with each other.

I do go on a bit, don´t I? To cut a long story short, is there a good secular service out there?

Ibiza, Marriagecare isn;t faith based. It is partially Ctlick sponsored, but its pro MARRIAGE primaryily, not evangelical.

Note that MarriageBuilders is an averedly christian foundation, yet does not preach.

Incidentally, God's a big fan of marriage. Even non faith ones. I know that won't bother you, but dont be surprised if it works our for ya surprisingly <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Don´t worry Bob.

I´m not too proud to accept help from anyone!

As a matter of interest Bob Relate where extremely helpful for me in a most difficult time in my life. I received counselling from them on an individual basis that frankly stopped me falling apart.

Now on the other working in the front line of News and Media I see often how The Daily Mail *alters* the news.

Like Tiberon, H and I got excellent help from Relate. The service is certainly neutral; they're not working from a 'save the marriage at all costs' mindset. However, our experience was not one of being mediated towards amicable divorce. That we wanted to see what could be saved of the marriage was accepted and supported. And the non-judgemental attitude was helpful to H, as it encouraged him to persist with counselling.