Perhaps I should resent being referred to as a "creep" but then again, this really is helping me understand more about the future relationship we "creeps" will attempt to have with familiar members of 2nd marriages.<P>Patience and understanding aside, it appears as if recovery from any relationship may very well be found in similar group support mechanisms. Is there the mode where we may be addicted to one another ? Obssessed ? Just seems like there are significant comparrisons . . . denial, enabling, co-dependency, the pain and confussion from withdrawl, selfishness, and the obvious . . . blaming others for all that is wrong in your world.<P>The part where accepting things that you can not change must be a toughy. I wait for her, and he does all that he can to keep her. She doesn't want to hurt him more than he is, and he throws all the guilt out for what "you are doing to the children" and all that crap. Blaming others . . .<P>Am I a creep ? Sure . . . I will wait for her. Am I a creep when we marry ?

Carlton,<BR>You seem to be extremely intelligent, but your posts and arguments have been incongruent if you actually have the convictions you claim. I truly do not have the time or the desire to point these all out because you are so determined to be right and enlightened, it would be a waste of energy.<P>I will say one thing. If a person's actions had no effect on others, then a person could do anything they desired and no one should have the right to stop them.<P>However, that is not the way life is. It is just not even if you think it should be.<P>Her H is not throwing blame, he is questioning her priorities and previous commitments as it pertains to how her actions affects others...especially her children who should be tops on her list.<P>Now don't report all your stats. The bottem line is kids want to live in a loving two parent household. Ah, you say...but it's not loving. Well then the partners need to do what it takes to make it loving.<P>Love is an action, not an uncontrolled emotion. It is hard work, often it is elusive, but love does not give up.<P>You are not part of the solution Carlton, you may not be the whole problem in your woman's life, but since she has already made choices and commitments, what you call friendship is a barrier for her to live by her commitments and convictions.<P>------------------<BR>Faith, Hope, Love Remain,<BR>but the greatest of these is Love.<BR>1 Corinthians 13:13

Well said FHL!!!<P>------------------<BR>God Bless,<BR>Rob<P><BR>