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I will ask, FL. I know he said soon but I will ask.


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Don't ask.

Give multiple choice options.

as in

"Let's agree you move out on one of these dates ---> A, B, or C."

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Hey WST! I have been thinking about and wondering how you were.

You're sweet, and I'm fine <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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At this point since my H signed the BC I have to accept that legally that child is his.

Legally, sure... Still might not be his, though.

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My H told me he looks just like our DS looked at that age. Yeah, like I needed to hear that!

Nice <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> What a jerk. Still proves nothing. I would insist on a DNA test.

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I am sorry about your mom. My mom is still m'd to OM and has been for over 25 years. She made her bed cuz he is one weird dude and I think has pretty much ruined her life except financially. Since my F did not provide financial security very well I guess this must have been her top EN.

Mom was m'd to OM for 18 years until he croaked a few years ago. My F was much better off financially, but the OM locked into my mom's religious fervor and played her like a fiddle.

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I don't hate my mother any more. I don't think I ever did but I was angry and deeply hurt. Every one of the 4 of us are still wounded from it.

I guess I don't really hate her. I came to grips with it a few years back when I realized that she herself was just a wounded child. Her parents were emotionally absent, apparently. It's just the new revelation about a previous affair, and I cannot 'resolve' it with her now as she is 'gone' mentally. I need to transfer the forgiveness from the last affair to the one I just found out about.

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Imagine how horrified I am at myself that I started down the same path. Only by the grace of God did I not leave my family for OM.

Yes. You realized your mistake, and have done everything possible to fix it.

I think my failed marriage was an attempt to find someone like my mother and 'fix' whatever went wrong in my childhood. My xWW followed the script perfectly <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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I am glad you had a wonderful father. I do too, though at the time of their D he was emotionally absent and dealing with his own pain. I had no real parents when I was a teenager.

{{{FF}}} My father is a saint. The greatest man in the world. He did not say *ONE* bad word about my mother (until very recently <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />). I only now understand the strength that must have taken. He just sucked it up and carried on. He got custody of us - unusual in those days, I suppose. I don't know all the details, but I guarantee he insisted on custody - protecting us from a flakey mother and a slimy OM.

I think in your case that your DD needs a strong male role model now. Do you have a brother (or maybe your father) who can fill this role for her for now?

I know that my mother leaving *still* causes me problems, and that little girls who lose (or lose respect for) their fathers often begin a life-long quest to re-capture what they lost. (I know - I seem to attract girls with 'daddy' issues.) IC for her is a must, as you know.

Having met you and her, I believe you and your DD will be fine. You are doing your absolute best, and she is a truly delightful child. Both kids are in good hands, and so are you <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

All the best!

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When dealing with a CA (or a young child for that matter) ... give 2 or 3 reasonable options for their choice. Sometimes, this is as close to POJA as you can come with certain CA personalities.

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Having met you and her, I believe you and your DD will be fine. You are doing your absolute best, and she is a truly delightful child. Both kids are in good hands
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Thanks. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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When dealing with a CA (or a young child for that matter) ... give 2 or 3 reasonable options for their choice. Sometimes, this is as close to POJA as you can come with certain CA personalities.
Will do and thank you.


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((((FF)))))

I was thinking of you today. I'm glad you liked my post to Fl. I think you are doing the kindest and most loving thing for yourself and your kids by continuing the D and removing his behaviour from your lives. Maybe you can think of ways to limit contact even if he sees his D every day?
Please keep looking after yourself!

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I finally understand why I try to control my H. It is my attempt to control what HAPPENS TO ME. It is an attempt to control how others hurt me.

You get it. ((((((hugs)))))))


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