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#1464842 08/31/05 08:12 PM
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Well, I’m going through absolute heartbreak like many of you here.

About six weeks ago is when I found out she was having an affair. I’m 33 and she’s 29 and we have been living together (not married) for four years and together for six and a half years. Up until recently we have both loved each other tremendously. She actually adored me.

Last summer we were having some problems getting along. My problem is trying to control my temper and verbally abusing her with my words at times. I now realize my problem and since our split I have sought help from a counselor. Her problem is that she is very insecure and has self-esteem issues arising from her alcoholic family past. Although, not an alcoholic herself, our counselor recommended that since she does enjoy alcohol, that she discontinue it forever since she is so genetically prone. The therapist also recommended she get on anti-depressant medicine since she has had life time bouts of depression. Finally he recommended that she also get individual therapy to face her childhood demons.

She got on the meds and stopped drinking, but never the individual therapy. This childhood problem has haunted her since I’ve known her.

Things we going great for us for about 6 months, then her daily time patterns started to change. She also started to go out more with co-workers and had time lapses. I would always complain about it but she would do it the next weekend over again. Finally I told her that I suspected that she was having an affair and she denied it. About another two months everything came to the surface.

I found out from our cell phone bill that there had been tons of calls to a number that I didn’t recognize. To make a long story short, she admitted to cheating with a co-worker. I didn’t talk to her for about a week and we finally made up. We didn’t talk in depth about it (first regret), but she agreed she wouldn’t see him. All seemed to go well for three weeks until all ****** broke lose.

The crazy thing was I left to go to work one morning, I hugged and kissed her goodbye and she said ‘I love you.’ Then later that evening she called to tell me that she was going out with some co-workers and wouldn’t be out too late and the last thing she said was ‘I love you sweetie.’

Then the shocker, she didn’t come home that night. The next morning from work I tried to inquire where she had been, but she hung up on me. Then I went home and asked her where she had been and her reply was, ‘I’m moving out.’ I had to pry the truth out of her and she admitted she was over this new OM house because she had drank too much. From then on, she never came back home and moved into a friend’s house, but seldom stays there. I know where he lives and I know she’s been staying over there, even though she denies it.

After the second day of moving out, she finally gave me the closure talk that I needed. She said that the reason she left is ‘90%’ due to the fact that I wouldn’t marry her and she doesn’t like the way I talk to her. We hadn’t talked marriage until two years ago, but I’ve been hesitant because of her insecurity and self-esteem issues (childhood). I now realized that I should have married her because she’s my best friend. The convo we had was very constructive without any anger, disrespect, or outburst, but since then she won’t talk to me—she refuses.

Finally I decided to put it all on the line

I got a hold of her face-to-face. I told her that I was wrong and that within four days I’ve realized that I should have married her and would like to. Also I let her know that I was already in counseling to help with my verbal abuse probs. I also recommended that we move across the country to be closer to her daughter and to get away from this mess and that I would do anything that it would take to make the relationship work. She seemed very sincere and flattered (since this is what she wanted) and we held each other and held hands. She told me that she had to think about it and would call me. I went home and sent her two dozen roses and I’ve confirmed she received them. Yet it’s 3 days later and I haven’t heard a word.

The lack of reply was a huge answer! I’ve decided to go directly to plan B, since A is not applicable here. The crazy thing is that I’ve tried to contact her to talk about our financial things that we need to separate (house, insurance, etc.), but she refuses to discuss it. No matter what she doesn’t want to talk to me even though the last two times I’ve talked to her, the convos were peaceful and productive. I don’t understand what is going on. It’s like she has become a runaway.

What does anyone think of this? Do I have a chance to get her back? Is plan B the right course of action.

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Of course plan B is NOT even close to the right order...

to do plan B you must do Plan A
the better the A
the more effective plan B..

Plan A is ALL about interacting with a spouse that is in an active affair or contact....

you have years of a history of verbal abuse....
and it is unrealistic and naive of you to believe that because you say you have changed that means you have proven the changes....

Plan A is the exact time frame in which you show your changes respectfully and with consistancy...

you need to read up on the concepts here so that you have a clear understanding...

also is she still actively seeing the OM
is he married
have you exposed to anyone the fact she is in an affair...

ARK^^

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Ark,

I appreciate your advice. I don't know much about the other man. Since he has his own apartment that I know she goes to regularly, I would assume he's single. Her and my friends are aware of the affair. Also I have talked to her parents about it and they are in shock and really seem to support me. She won't talk much to them about it though. At this point she won't make contact with me. If/when I call and leave a voicemail, she never returns them, so how can I make Plan A work if I have no contact. Also she has a 11 year old daughter that is out of state but visits 4x a year. Our relationship was great and she will be hurt when she knows we are separated.

I am wondering if I should contact her daughter to let her know about the affair since she isn't my biological child, but we are close. She will be coming here in 5 weeks so she at the minimum will know her mother is no longer living here with me.

Also how do I show her that I have worked on the things that I need to change? It's likely that if I do see her, it will be for a short stint.


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