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huh? We can prevent hurricanes? You have got to be kidding me? Of course not.... but we can plan for them, right? I blabbered (?) a post a few minutes back -- where I spouted off a little more (and with perhaps a bit more intelligence....) And how would we plan for them better?
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Where are the State & Local officials?
I happened to note that most of the people stuck there are ADULTS. The last time I checked, ADULTS, not big POPPA GOVERNMENT, were responsible for themselves. We love you Mel and we agree with you completely throughout this thread, But isn't this a bootstrap theory here? TA shouldn't be complaining, the Government is on it's way, fumbling over itself I bet, but nonetheless on it's way. The Wonderings
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[ How many people would HONESTLY take in some family you don't even know. Especially when you are trying to save your marriage. Many of us down here in Texas are "honestly" taking in families that we don't know.
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TA...
It's not that we are agreeing or disagreeing with you regarding the article...the article was a statement of fact...nothing to argue over.
We are not taking political cheap shots here...all we are saying is ARGUE WHAT YOU VOTE FOR! TA, you seem to be saying that these stranded folks were/are helpless, and the government should be more stealh in helping those who can't help themselves...this is NOT a Republican viewpoint...this is the view of those "liberal social programs" that supposedly KEEP the Poor Poor (which you trounced in your post)...a typical Republican view would assert that these folks should have "pulled themselves up by the bootstraps" and gotten out of dodge...That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be helped...not an issue...obviously they should be...
So, whether you are a Democrat or a Republican is really of no issue to us...all we are saying is that TA's arguments don't match HIS vote...Pick a side, any side...
The Wonderings I said previously I am a die hard elephant and always will be.
75% of these peope were NOT helpless, they were Idiots.
We need to help them in spite of their poor decisions. I would say 25% did not deserve this.
We need to have compassion for people who make ill decisions in this type of situation.
All lives are worth saving, not just my Rich White A$$.
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Where are the State & Local officials?
I happened to note that most of the people stuck there are ADULTS. The last time I checked, ADULTS, not big POPPA GOVERNMENT, were responsible for themselves. We love you Mel and we agree with you completely throughout this thread, But isn't this a bootstrap theory here? TA shouldn't be complaining, the Government is on it's way, fumbling over itself I bet, but nonetheless on it's way. The Wonderings That is not the bootstrap theory at all. No where has any Republican advocated that we abandon them and that they pick themselves up by their OWN boostraps. Saying that they are ADULTS, which they are, who are ultimately responsible for themselves is not the same as advocating that we abandon them and no Republican has said any such thing.
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I am shocked the most. Us BS of all people understand about compassion. I thought many here would support me when I posted this thread. Instead they blame these people and call them Stupid.
I hope they don't LB like this to their WS, reconciliation will never happen Never ever ever, put me in your collective group of BS. We aren't all the same people, and all WS aren't the same people, and they all don't spew the same old stuff that you complain about time and time again. Never ever ever PRESUME TO KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT ANY OF US, BS OR WS ALIKE. You don't hope WE LB ? There won't be a reconciliation ??? Again, you know not what you speak, I've been in a solid recover for almost a year and a half, there you go with your assumptions again. I have the greatest of compassion for this situation, and I've dug in my pockets too. Stop your assumptions, because they couldn't be further than the facts. Your WW said this, your WW said that. She couldn't afford to rent her own tiny apartment ? My GOD.... and you wonder why YOU aren't reconciling ????? Enough...I can't take it anymore.
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[ How many people would HONESTLY take in some family you don't even know. Especially when you are trying to save your marriage. Many of us down here in Texas are "honestly" taking in families that we don't know. [b]That's a very kind gesture. I would IF I had to. How long are we talking? 2 weeks, 2 years?
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Mel, FEMA itself produced a report, after a study, that said a major hurricane/disaster in NO was one of the top 3 major threats to the US. (I'm paraphrasing of course). "All" of the "experts" -- the scientists, the meteorologists, etc... they've ALL been saying the same thing... for DECADES... it was GOING to HAPPEN. The Army Corp of Eng... responsible for the levee system in NO -- they freely admit that it was ALL designed for a Cat 3 Hurr at best. While everyone else (the experts) were saying -- for DECADES -- "hey, if the big one hits, we're toast." This was a FAILURE to deal with REALITY... and I have a hard time NOT deducing it all down to politics/money (same thing, generally, one way or the other).
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[ How many people would HONESTLY take in some family you don't even know. Especially when you are trying to save your marriage. Many of us down here in Texas are "honestly" taking in families that we don't know. That's a very kind gesture. I would IF I had to. How long are we talking? 2 weeks, 2 years? It will likely be 3 months according to our pastor.
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Melody...
TA's arguments are incongruent with his vote...In the beginning of this thread, we, along with others presumed TA was a Democrat based on his seemingly liberal viewpoints...then we find out that he is actually one of the "Wealthy White Fat Cats" that he is complaining about...again , we don't care whose side your on, be it Rep. or Dem...you just can't be a "fence riding cake eater"!
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Melody...
TA's arguments are incongruent with his vote...In the beginning of this thread, we, along with others presumed TA was a Democrat based on his seemingly liberal viewpoints...then we find out that he is actually one of the "Wealthy White Fat Cats" that he is complaining about...again , we don't care whose side your on, be it Rep. or Dem...you just can't be a "fence riding cake eater"!
The Wonderings Gotcha, and I agree 100%. I think he is a TROLL and have for a long time.
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Melody,
Agreed!
ROTFLMAO! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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This site has hundreds and hundreds of listings for families, homes, furnished, offers to relocate families. There's no way to get this information to the people that need it. Everyone is doing something, the people of NO just can't get to the information. It's tragic, I agree. But I still stand on the side of common sense. If I was penniless, carless, and had nothing but my two feet, I would have carried my child to safety. I wouldn't be standing around waiting for someone to come HELP me. I'd be going to FIND the help. It's been days people.... MOVE yourself..do not WAIT.... that's where I lose my patience. I just can't watch the television anymore. I can't understand this, I just can't. Volunteering Housing - Craigslist
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Melody...
TA's arguments are incongruent with his vote...In the beginning of this thread, we, along with others presumed TA was a Democrat based on his seemingly liberal viewpoints...then we find out that he is actually one of the "Wealthy White Fat Cats" that he is complaining about...again , we don't care whose side your on, be it Rep. or Dem...you just can't be a "fence riding cake eater"!
The Wonderings So because I'm a Republican I can't be compassionate?
This is what Liberals continue to propogate.
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ENOUGH.
I'm appalled at the way this thread has deteriorated in the last few hours - and the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of ALL of the participants.
And I'm locking it.
I don't want to see another one like this, or all of the people who participate may lose their posting privileges here either temporarily or permanently. If there is a problem with my "parental" behavior, I can only say that there would be none if some were not behaving like children.
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