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I have tried to install a few free trials, but they are ANYTHING but stealth, they pop up on every persons screen.....
My H suddenly just got his cell reactivated, and of course, I don't know the password, and he does access his account online, and I'd like to know who he's calling.
Any suggestions???
-Caren
Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
BS-Me 39 WH-37 Together 15 years Married 12 years 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16. Mine: DD22, DD15 Ours: DD12 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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married 21 Together 26 - OW 2yrs, he worked with her and found secret e-mail account.The first cut is the deepest. just found out H is a serial cheater - total cut to pieces now- saw a D lawyer today.
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Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
BS-Me 39 WH-37 Together 15 years Married 12 years 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16. Mine: DD22, DD15 Ours: DD12 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Based on the volume of your experience here I can only guess I am stating something you already know. However, since no one seems to have the answer I will give it my best.
I used a free trial period spyware program I downloaded straight off the internet. Though it too popped up everytime my computer was turned off, then on...once on, I needed only to tell the Anti-Spyware program to ignore it and then my spyware program continued to operate unbeknownst to my wife. Hopefully, his Anti-Spyware doesn't continually do searches.
However, this is not a safe way to operate. To shore up my secrecy I instead went into the anti-spyware program and simply turned it off. You then must also be certain to deactivate the auto re-boot icon so that it won't turn on again when the computer is restarted or re-booted. Now your Spyware runs unimpeded unless the Anti-spyware is intentionally activated. I also hid the Anti-Spyware icon off the desktop. Luckily my wife never caught on that her anti-spyware wasn't operational. Your husband may be more savvy or otherwise aware. I would only do this for a few days at a time, just to get passwords, as I feared her getting suspicious and running the spyware program just to see if I was spying on her.
Additionally, if you each have your own computers then definitely put spyware on your machine and turn off the Anti-spyware program as suggested above. Your WS may jump on your computer just to avoid you snooping on his/hers. They never suspect you spying on yourself.
I don't know your situation but I attempted to keep my spying a complete secret. If they think you trust them, they are more likely to relax and screw up.
Finally, the voice activated digital voice recorder idea is the most effective method of getting stealth information without the risk. Not only do you get conversations with OP but you also get juicy conversations with WS's friends-in-the-know. Warning - don't do this unless you are prepared to get more than some can emotionally handle. You can even hide the recorder under the seat in his car or wherever you feel he may be most likely carrying on his secret cell phone conversations.
ACT OUT
Me-BH 42
WW - 37
EA/PA Jan-June 2005
Dday April 15, 2005
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Recovery -so far so good
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I used Eblaster with great success - in fact, it was via this program that I actually found out about the affair.
You may have to tell any software firewalls (like Zonealarm) that the program is OK, but after that, it will email you EVERYTHING he does/types/reads etc. It costs $100.00 though. Well worth it IMHO.
I hope you are doing well, Caren. As you can see from my sig line, my future looks bleak...
TM
BH (Me) 32,
WW 38
no kids
been together 14.5 yrs.
married 9
D-day 12/5/04
D final 11/23/05, she got it all...I just wanted out.
Done with her...selfishness is not a virtue
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e-blaster worked great for me also.
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I second SpectraSofts Eblaster. I actually use this program on my DD15 computer.
I installed it after a good friend of mine's 16yr old daughter was raped by a boy she met on a internet relgious website. I thought it was the best thing to keep an eye on my daughter's activities.
I get logs of all the chats that take place. They are actually emailed to my email address. You can set up preferences to allow you to set up the frequency. You get hourly reports that show you everywebsite and log of keystrokes.
I also can go to the computer and see all websites, logs that include passwords, emails etc.
It does completley run in Stealth mode as long as you select it. However, I highly recommend that when you install it you run Norton AntiVirus afterwards to add it to the approved programs otherwise it MAY see it.
They do updates all the time to keep it in stealth mode. My DD however is quite aware that this program is on her computer. She caught us reading one of her emails. She was upset at first, but then understood and respected mine and WS reason behind doing this.
If you love something, set it free.
If it comes back its yours.
If it doesn't, it never was.
You can't make sense of insanity...definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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SpectorSoft is perfect. Easy and discreet. I forgot where I put it on my computer and I can't find it! But at least I can still use it.
BS (me) 36 FWW 32 DD 5 DS 2 D-Day & Exposure 4/3/05 D-day #2 Early June '05 In Recovery
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Thank you, thank you, thank you everyone!!!!!!! I appreciate all your help.
Especially you Mel, I don't know how I'll ever be able to thank you.
I made another thread about how strangly H has been acting since he got this stupid cell re-activated, he's acting just like he did when the *A* was in full swing.
I am fine, I'm not upset, I'm SOOOOOOOOOO past all that, it's not even funny. Something clicked after my anniversary, and I really can't think of anything he can do to hurt me emotionally anymore......I'm too closed off.
But I still want to know what he's up to, because I just may need the information for my divorce.
I still don't want a divorce, but it would be stupid of me not to prepare for it, since he already has the paperwork done up, etc. (I'm still not signing sh*t)
Oh by the way, let me put your mind at ease about him *finding out* about the keylogger.....he is, for all intents and purposes, computer illiterate......he would not look for anything like that, nor does he even know anything like that exists. He gets on the computer to look at porn, check his e-mail and to access his cell phone account.....he needs my help if he's doing anything else....and it's MY computer, we don't have 2....just the one, and I could lock this b*tch up so he couldn't touch it at all and he wouldn't have a clue what to do to get in it. (although he'd probably throw the tower out in the driveway if I did that).
My problem was the free trials that I had downloaded were popping up at start up, not just in my screen (I have XP so we all log onto our own screens) in EVERY screen.....and that wasn't gonna work, I mean he would want to know what this program that said "KEYLOGGER" across it was...LOL.
Anyway, crisis averted, thanks to Mel...... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Thanks Again,
-Caren
Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
BS-Me 39 WH-37 Together 15 years Married 12 years 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16. Mine: DD22, DD15 Ours: DD12 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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Anyway, crisis averted, thanks to Mel...... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Melody, what's this magic pill email you sent her say? There may be 5 minutes in the day that you are not here and I could give the same information to someone else in need. I was thinking of creating my own list of sneaky snooping tips and ways to ATTACK the OP so I'd be interested in it too. If your willing to part with your secrets. You've got my email but I'll give it again: the_wonderings@yahoo.comMr. Wondering
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If I told ya, I would hafta kill ya! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Check your email. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Caren:
I am sorry girl, but I have to know something. Given your predicament and the extremely disgusting way you have been treated by your wayward (worse than a dog), why the *&^% are you worried about a key logger program here? Your issues honestly (in my ignorant-unexpert opinion) have nothing to do with another woman or emotional needs being met by someone else. Now, you have done everything under the sun for this man, have REDEFINED the word DOORMAT, and yet you are still worried about a key logger program to see who he is calling.............AND YOU ARE FINDING SUPPORT FOR THIS HERE.......Now, I am sorry to be so blunt here, but this is akin to worrying about treating some mild blood pressure issues when you have been diagnosed with a hairy cell leukemia.......I know that you have "vows" and you want to "fight" for your man, but I just will never get you...I won't. Good luck in this (You really need it), I hope you get the information you are looking for.
Lem
Last edited by lemonman; 09/17/05 06:43 PM.
Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.
I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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Caren,
Keyloggers are not always required. You said your husband has a cell phone account that he accesses online. Hack it. All you need in most cases to hack these accounts is the private information of your husband, like his ssn, or his mothers maiden name or something else you probably know. Go to the cell phone carriers web page and look for the login page. Most of these pages have a routine you can go through if you happen to forget your password or user name. These security programs many times will prompt you for information like those mentioned above and if you answer correctly they will give you the password. Try and logon you will get ideas for hacking the account as you go. One thing, do not use the send me a new password through email. If you accidently use this function an email will be sent to your husbands email account and he will be aware you are hacking his account. If this thing wants you to change the password , you can get away with this as long as you use a password that you know your husband has used in the past that he does not know that you know.
If you have a network at home for multiple computers to be able to access the internet at the same time, there is network administration software that will let you monitor all the traffic on the network. Free trial copies of these programs are available which will let you see some of the information that is available. Much of this free information is more than enough to detect contact.
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I am fine, I'm not upset, I'm SOOOOOOOOOO past all that, it's not even funny. Something clicked after my anniversary, and I really can't think of anything he can do to hurt me emotionally anymore......I'm too closed off.
But I still want to know what he's up to, because I just may need the information for my divorce. I missed this earlier. Please ignore my earlier post on this thread. I misundersttod why you wanted the information. Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.
I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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I missed this earlier. Please ignore my earlier post on this thread. I misundersttod why you wanted the information. lol!!Lemonman you crack me up!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Its nice to see you posting again. We need the balance around here.
aka-confused42 BS-45 me WH-42 DS-14 & DD-12 together 21 yrs, married 18.5yrs "I love you but not IN love with you" speech 6/3/04 D-Day 2/25/05; WH moved out 3/15/05 & back too soon 3/22/05...He left again 5/8/06 5/25/06 Plan B.....NC letter 6/18/06 Recovery finally began Jan 2007 We are IN love again!!!Sept 2007
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I missed this earlier. Please ignore my earlier post on this thread. I misundersttod why you wanted the information. lol!!Lemonman you crack me up!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Its nice to see you posting again. We need the balance around here. Confused42: What do you mean by "balance"? I am curious to know what that means to you. I hear that alot but I am not exactly sure what that "balance" means. Help me out here. Thanks Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.
I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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LOL Lemon-
I just love you!!!! You bring another side to almost every discussion, I'm sure that's what confused means by balance.
Yeah, I don't want the keylogger information so I can go on another *win my H back* crusade, I'm so past that.....if anyone is going to have to go on a crusade, it's gonna have to be him.....and I'm not entirely sure that would even work....I can't imagine the fancy footwork he'd have to do, it would be on such a mammoth scale that I don't think he could wrap his brain around it.
I know now (I guess I've always known, but have been denying it) that I can be happy without him, that there is someone out there that would value me, and treat me with the respect I deserve (and used to get, btw). I've been hanging on to some romantic memory of what our marriage used to be, but neither of us are those people anymore....that in itself is sad, but I am strong enough to deal with it.
You'd actually be proud of me lemon.....I told him today "I've been living on the crumbs you've been throwing me, and I deserve the 7 course meal." He said "Well why don't you go find someone that will give you the 7 course meal" I said "Don't think that I can't."
He's going to be VERY sorry VERY soon.....he's never had to be without me, through all the screwed up stuff he's done to me, but he's fixin' to find out just what that's going to be like.
I'm prepared, I've been living without the man I married for well over a year, he hasn't had to deal with losing me....I've been here for his every whim. Well he better batton down the hatches, cuz I'm leaving him high and dry.
-Caren
Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
BS-Me 39 WH-37 Together 15 years Married 12 years 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16. Mine: DD22, DD15 Ours: DD12 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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LOL, I actually hacked his cell account before, so he has *safeguards* up. He also uses a pre-paid cell, it's a virgin mobile, and there is a *v-key* which is a password that is 6 digits (no letters), and it asks a security question, but it has like 5 security questions to choose from, and it doesn't give you infinite tries to find out...and then it e-mails you the account info or sends it to your phone. His v-key before was his birthdate....really easy to figure out, but I haven't even tried to figure it out this time.......I'll get it, he'll log into the account eventually, and the keylogger will catch it.....TA DA!!!!!!!!
Someone also suggested that I use a voice activated recorder on the home phone line.....been there done that. I still have the tape of my H and FOW talking smack about me for about 60 minutes.
I was just thinking today, my H acts so justified in his *A* because we were split up, but in the conversation I recorded, they were discussing that my daughter's car was fixed and she was asking what kind of car it was, what the color was, and she made the comment "So now she has 2 cars she could be driving?" So what reason did he give her that it all had to be a big secret???!?! And that she should be on the look out for me in multiple cars!!! LMAO
Ooooooo here's another strange thing, at the end of last week, before the phone was off, my H called me when I got home from work and said "So, what'd you find out about me today??" I said "Excuse me?" He said "What'd you find out about me today???" I said "I have no clue what you're talking about, nor am I interested in what you were doing today" He said "Well you have people in the parking lot of my work watch me" I said "WHAT?!?!?" He said "C'mon Caren I saw them" I said "OMG, what are you smoking, like I have the money to hire someone to do that" He said "Oh, you don't have to have money when it's your family....." I said "WHAT?!?!!" He said "Your Mom was parked in the parking lot of my work for like 20 minutes today, right where she could see into the store....blah blah" I said "Well I haven't even spoken to her today, so I wouldn't know why" He said "Whatever....she was there for a long time, and then she drove really slow around the back of the building...." (My Mom is 70....she drives really slow wherever she's going...LMAO) So I got off the phone and called my Mom and asked her and she said "Oh for God's sake, I went to K-mart (The parking lot is attached) and I had dropped some change, so I pulled over in that parking lot and parked so I could pick up the change (She has rheumatoid arthritis, so picking up change takes a while), and I was there for about 5 minutes...not 20 minutes. How's that for paranoia LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Caren
Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
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