|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
My parents have been going through this stuff since June... My dad keeps telling me that he still loves my mom but it really doesnt feel like it... How can someone just throw away 24 yrs of marriage.... That confuses me.... I know that I am not old enough to realize all the stuff that is going on but to me this is a good learning experience..... If any of you can help me out that would be really nice.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069 |
Welcome to marriagebuilders. It is a good thing to see you posting here.
All of this must seem very frightening to you. If you keep reading here, you will see that these things happen, even in the best of marriages. Often, one person doesn't guard their heart, and suddenly gets attracted to another person. Then they seem like they lose all of their brains. They think they are willing to give up everything for the other person.
But usually, they end up going back to their marriage and family. In the meantime it isn't a lot of fun for the wife and kids.
I hope you will keep reading and posting here. Although you are young, you can prepare to look forward to having a good marriage.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 469
Member
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 469 |
H2,
How old are you?
How brave you are to be dealing with all of this.
I don't know what I would do if my kids knew what happened to my H and me.
Your parents are lucky to have you.
Just know they both love you. Hopefully, the problems they are having now will get sorted out.
God bless.
me-FBS M-6/84 3 great kids
A-2/03-5/04 DDay-5/8/04 WD - severe-5/04-9/04 with continuing C; NC ltr-9/3/04
In Recovery with God's help
Praying for all WS/BS. Blessings!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
I am 18.... I really am trying my best but it seems to be hard... The ow is really trying to be all friendly to me... I dont know waht to do about that... Thank you beliver for helping my mom through everything.... This site is really helping her...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069 |
To answer your other question about being nice to the other woman, your fears of your father cutting you off are very justified. He is like a drug addict right now.
I think it is fine to be polite to the other woman. But keep in mind that she does not have the morals that your mom raised you with. She is a threat to your family.
Your best bet is to be polite to her, but you can also let your dad know how all of this makes you feel. That is a tough assignment for someone so young, but it will help you learn how to stand up for what is right.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996 |
Love both your parents with all your heart...
it is NOT necessary for you to love or even like OW
if you want to, you can tell your father you only want to see him and not OW ... it's entirely up to you
having said that .... no doubt that one of your Mom's fears is she might be replaced not only as "wife" but as "mother" too ....
your Mom may need lots of reassurance from you
how old are you?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
Thank you..... You guys really are helping.... Like I said I am 18.... I had a little experience with this a couple of months ago... I was with this guy for 5 months and he wanted to marry me.. HE then cheated on me and it really devastated me.. But that will never compare to 24 yrs of marriage.. At times i still wish he was here with me but then I realize. Why would I want to be with someone that will cheat on me...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
There is something else... My dad keeps talking about him dying and how he wants me to sing at his funeral... He also told my mom that if something happens to him out on the road that he wants the gk's to have his collectibles that are really toys that he got from Mcdonalds and stuff.. Why would he be talking about all this....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069 |
You know what? Pain is pain. Whether you are committed to someone for 24 years, or 5 months, it hurts to be betrayed.
It also has to hurt to be "daddy's girl" and have dad go off the deep end. But that is part of life. I'm quite sure your dad will be back to his real self, though. In the meantime, take care of yourself. Your mom and dad both love you very much.
And stick around and read how YOU can look forward to someday having a good solid marriage.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
Thank you Believer.... You truly are someone that I can look up to... No matter what is wrong in a relationship you should always try to work things out... I think that if you have a problem in a relationship you need to talk to your partner and try to at least work things out...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069 |
That is how most of us start out. But often as the relationship continues, and everyday life intrudes, we forget that we need to turn to our partner.
You are going to learn some things about committment from your mother. In the end, that is what will carry a relationship through. That means we are committed to making the marriage work, through good times, bad times, in sickness and health, just like the marriage vows say.
I hope that you will write that on your heart.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,609
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,609 |
thank all of you for answering my daughters questions. I appreciate you being here for her as well.
She had asked me if she could come on here. I told her I thought it would be wonderful then she could get her questions answered as well as learn some things. she has been confused as to how WH acts and talks. So maybe now she can see its not just her father that has done this.
Again ty all
BS (Me)- 47 WH - 46 Married- 24 yrs 3 children 15,19,22 2 grandsons D-Day- June17, 2005 while I was 1400 miles away WH living with OW since July 05 WH filed divorce papers Dec. 22, 05 Divorced granted June 28, 06
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069 |
Hurting - You have raised a bright and poised young woman. I know that you are very proud of her.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,609
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,609 |
yes I am ..... I love her very much ....
BS (Me)- 47 WH - 46 Married- 24 yrs 3 children 15,19,22 2 grandsons D-Day- June17, 2005 while I was 1400 miles away WH living with OW since July 05 WH filed divorce papers Dec. 22, 05 Divorced granted June 28, 06
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 906
Member
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 906 |
hurtinginokla-ette, <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I've been where you are... but I was a lot younger... 14. I'm 38 now. But I think I can remember back that far <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> My dad left my mom, my brother and me and moved with OW as far as he could while still being in the same country.
On the one hand, we were all very relieved to see him go because he was causing all of us so much heartache. On the other hand, we were in a world of hurt because of the obvious rejection, not just of our mother, but of us kids. Plus there were some very real financial problems that also made life a complete ****** for us. We had no idea that things could go from worst, to even worse than that but they did.
At 38, I'm now quite a bit older than my father was when he left our family. I would have to say, very honestly, and I mean no offense to believer, because I respect her immensely. YOU will have to be strong and brave for yourself and then for your mom. But you will need to take care of you first. You are a vulnerable and yet terribly strong spirit in this too.
There are a few things I will tell you that will probably take some time to think over. You may or may not agree. That's cool. I'm not going to tell you how your life is - just going to throw some ideas out there and you can decide if they make sense for you. OK?
I think probably the reason your dad is talking about dying is because he is scared to death of what he is doing with his life. Believe it or not, even after 24 years of marriage, what he knows about life and love and commitment is just barely more than what you know now! How crazy is that?!? But it's probably true.
And what's more, the extra knowledge that he's gained with his years and experience is only making him scared... He's scared that this is all there is in life and since he still isn't happy, he's on this mad tear to try and get happy. Some of us know that doesn't really work. Some of us have found comfort with the other person and made a life with that person. It's not the popular view here, but it does happen.
The OTHER reason your dad is talking about dying is because it is a very good way of exerting control. He doesn't have a lot of control over himself or anyone else right now. It's VERY difficult to look your dad in the face and say something like "h*ll NO! I'm not going to listen to your hairy bullsh*t - you're not dying. You're just trying to get me to feel sympathetic for you so I won't make you feel worse than you already feel even though you deserve it for running out on mom ya bum!" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
It's not funny, but I write this with a smile because whether your dad is aware or not, he's trying to get you to go easy on him... Another hard to believe thing - probably, in all of this, he sees himself as the victim. He sees himself as trapped and old and dying and unhappy and if he blamed himself for that, he'd probably drive himself nuts, so he's blaming your mom instead. Again, sometimes that wears off and sometimes it lasts for -- ever.
At 18, you're already experiencing loving and not so loving relationships for yourself. If you can take this bit of wisdom to heart, it will help you deal with your dad's problem and possibly your own ups and downs with your love life as well. Your dad isn't doing this TO you. He isn't doing this TO your mom. He's just doing it. He's not leaving her or you - he's just leaving. That's the thing about men and women who leave -- they just do.
What makes a smoker a smoker? They smoke. They aren't smoking to make you sick or hurt your feelings or make you smell bad. They just smoke. The payoff for smoking makes the health risks negligible. Smokers might care about how second-hand smoke affects you, but in the end, a smoker just wants a cigarette. It's not about you. It's not about your mom. Your dad wants something unhealthy and he doesn't care about what it's doing to him or you - he's just going to do it until he decides to quit.
So back to taking care of you. At some point in time, it’s likely that someone will point a finger at YOU and say something like “you’re just saying this because you are supporting your mother” or “you don’t really know what you’re talking about” or “you’re too young to understand what your father is going through” these throw-away lines usually come from people who just can’t believe that you could make decisions for yourself about what you think is right and wrong and comfortable or not for YOU in this situation.
Just be strong in yourself. You’re going to make mistakes anyway. That’s the beauty of life. No matter how old you get, you keep making mistakes! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> So, trust the decisions you make and if you think you need to make a different decision that’s OK. You’re allowed to change your mind. So if you start off not wanting to visit dad with OW. OK. If later you decide you’d like to try it. OK. If even later you change your mind again. Guess what? You’re still doing just fine!
You’re really only 18? Wow. You’re doing great! You sound very together and calm and that is going to be a great asset going forward. Sounds like you already had a rough experience with a cheat. I’m sorry you had to experience that. In some very real ways, you’re more at risk than others for being vulnerable and bumping into the wrong kind of guy, It’s no fault of your own. It’s another rotten reality – when one of our parents cheats, it affects us in ways we’re rarely aware of at the time. Hurtinginokla-ette, you are one awesome woman! I really admire you for having the presence of self to come on this vast board and post away. It takes a lot of guts.
Keep taking care of yourself, give your mom a squidgy hug and enjoy a good laugh and cry together. You’re both really wonderful. Feel free to ask whatever questions you like, I’ll do my best to be straight with you.
Warmly, Sally
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,609
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,609 |
Tahnks everyone.... My mom did raise me very well... Yeah there are times that we get into it but everything will be alright later... I have learned that you cannot take life for granted... You will get your chance to do alot of different things at different times... Dont rush anything...But again thank you.... I will keep posting....
BS (Me)- 47 WH - 46 Married- 24 yrs 3 children 15,19,22 2 grandsons D-Day- June17, 2005 while I was 1400 miles away WH living with OW since July 05 WH filed divorce papers Dec. 22, 05 Divorced granted June 28, 06
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
Thanks to everyone on here i am starting to look at things differently.. You all are a true inspiration to me.... My mom really appreciates you guys talking to me....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 27,069 |
Well, hang in there. This will go up and down for you. There will be bad days and good days.
Did you see Sally's post to you? I thought it was a pretty good one.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 11,539
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 11,539 |
hurtin2, just like sally I had infidelity in my life as a child. In my case my mom left us for the OM. They have been married for 26 years now and no one has ever "truly" accepted him. To this day it hurts and I am 44 now.
The dying part is true what Believer told you. My WH spoke of suicide and dying often because he was so conflicted in his heart doing what he was doing and KNOWING it was wrong and hurting everyone. God bless you and your mom in this journey. You are special women.
Faith
me: FWW/BS 52 H: FWH/BS 49 DS 30 DD 21 DS 15 OCDS 8
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 38 |
The way my dad keeps talking about death is very scary to me... I really dont like it... I dont know what to say to him.... But you all are right... Maybe it is just him trying to get everyone to pay more attention to him... If thats what he is doing i wish he would stop... But to everyone that replies to my post thank you guys so much...
|
|
|
0 members (),
1,701
guests, and
92
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums67
Topics133,625
Posts2,323,524
Members72,031
|
Most Online6,102 Jul 3rd, 2025
|
|
|
|