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#1488178 10/02/05 11:32 PM
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I am not sure what is going on with my W, but she goes on and on about how men want to own and control women. She even tied this into a school form where I was listed first and she was second. She has become increasingly feminist over the past several years and believes that government wants to make women second class citizens and take away their rights. I can't even talk to her anymore, because it turns into male-bashing, anti-Republican venom, and then a ton of criticism towards me. Such as how I don't have a real job, I don't do anything around the house, I get in the way, I disrupt my W and only daughter's routine, etc. I can't believe it, since I am low-key, go with the flow, and have always made a very good income which, in fact, allowed my W to have financial backing while she started her own company. Any suggestions? It doesn't make any sense to me.

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It does get frustrating sometimes. When I gave birth to my daughter in 1996, my husband was the stay-at-home-dad and I had to go back to work in a few days. When I filled out the birth certificate, there was a place to fill in the father's occupation but none for the mother. Now understand that I live in Massachusetts, the most liberal state in America. We even let Gay people marry here and adopt children. In 1996 we had a female governor who had just given birth to twins and her H was a stay at home dad.

This was a new form, published that year--not some old one.

This just set me off for awhile and my H had to listen to me rant about it. I wrote letters and harrassed any public official who did not have the common sense to hang up on me.

I am 53 years old--I lived through the women's movement. And stuff like this makes me crazy too. I kind of forget about it from time to time--all seems so copacetic. Then all of a sudden something like this triggers my bra-burning mentality and I'm off again.

When my H and I were going to get married we had to meet with the priest (Catholic). The priest set me off with all kinds of chauvenistic crap and I ended up telling him off and storming out of the meeting.

I laugh now when I think about it. This was back in the 1970's and I will never forget the look on the priest's face. I was more articulate than him -- talked circles around him. I would guess that he had never had anyone stand up to him like this before.

I told my H he better find a woman to marry us or the nuptuals were off. The City Clerk (female) married us at a lovely civil ceremony a couple of years later. (It took me that long to cool off.)

My H is low key, go with the flow too. I think he lets me get all worked up over this from time to time because he knows the sex is always hotter when my blood boils.


Me: 56
H: 61
DD: 13 and hormonal
DS: 20

Oldest son died 1994 @ age 8

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Hi, Although I can understand that you feel your wife is taking this all out on you (which isnt fair) I can also understand where she coming from. Often it isnt until a women has a child that she realises just how downtrodden women can be in western society. Sure its not overt like in some other counries (which leads many to think it doesnt happen anymore) its more covert like in expecations on women to clean raise children, hold down full time employment and look great at the same time. I noticed you stated it was your high paying job that enable her to start her own business but have you ever considere that its the extra hours she puts in at home that allow you to have that job....As a full time working mother of 4 school age children I get frustrated to that my husband and I both worked the same hours and yet I still end uo with the lions share at home. It makes no difference who gets paid more . In fact I think the one being paid less is giving up more....in that they are the ones who gain less financial reward from employment.
Please dont speak as if feminism is a dirty word....although out of vogue....Feminism is only the radical belief that women are people to....Good on her......
feminism never started any wars or killed anyone ...it only ever asks for equity, sharing and understanding.

In relation to her taking this out on you....well thats a different matter ( if you truely do share all responsibilities) I really would suggest counseling as she seems to have some anger inside


A great site for guys is linked below. It has really great articles relevent to gender issues

Good Luck with everything
http://www.xyonline.net/


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