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I am thinking about how that (telling OM) will go. He will honestly be supportive, he will question my sanity but not suggest medication <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I will have to see him or at leask talk to him to do that. I am almost afraid of getting caught talking to him at this point. i don't want to damage the progress that has already been made with H. The last conversation I had with OM was about neither of us being able to do this anymore and how we needed to "figure out what the he!! both of us wanted and wanted to do". We agreed to back off--way off-- and decide on our own what each of us needed to do with our respective situations. OM's wife followed me the next day, I guess she thought I was going to see him (I wasn't) I was going to a park (alone) and it just happened to be in the same direction as the town he lives in. Anyway, she followed me and I lost her somewhere. I went to where I was going without hesitation because there was nothing wrong with what I ws doing and if she wanted to see where I was going, I couln't care less. So I didn't see her anymore but when I got back into cell service, she had called my cell phone like 5 or 6 times and left a message something to the effect that I should have kept on going that I had almost made it. I didn't respond at all, as that would have only fueled a fire that was blazing enough. Next thing I hear is that he hasn't been back home, and she has taken down all of her wedding pictures off the wall. I hate it, what we did was wrong, yes, I do not deny that. However, they have issues besides me as well. If I talk to him, I will encourage him to reconcile (if possible) and NC with me. How does all that sound?

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[On his exposure and how to handle those people...now that you are ready to work on the marriage, this becomes an internal thing. You just keep things between the two of you. Once you two are together and it is just the two of you (OM is gone), then it is not anyone else's business.

I don't think I was clear.... I meant how do I also handle the people to whom he has exposed ME. I know it will be very hard, I will be judged, looked down upon--you know the whole nine yards-- I guess what I meant by the other post was that I won't be the one saying "Yeah so what I had an A, but look at Mr. Perfect--He's an addict" I would not could not and will not under ANY circumsstance do that. I will need to keep some sort of positive attitude even when I am judged for what I am guilty of or else, I know me, I will get pissy and withdraw from the whole world.

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Tiny,

Good stuff so far. And yes...when your husband does something right, enable that. Water it. Let it grow.

On how to tell OM, there is a no contact letter on here to use. You can use it as a template (it is also in the Surviving an Affair book) to write the letter. Dr. Harley advises that talking to or seeing the OP is not a good idea. That it should end with this very succinct letter. Here is what Dr. harley advises:

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Once an affair is first revealed, whether it's discovered or admitted, the victimized spouse is usually in a state of shock. The first reaction is usually panic, but it's quickly followed by anger. Divorce and sometimes even murder are contemplated. But after some time passes (usually about three weeks), most couples decide that they will try to pull together and save their marriage.

The one having an affair is in no position to bargain, but he or she usually tries anyway. The bargaining effort usually boils down to somehow keeping the lover in the loop. You'd think that the unfaithful spouse would be so aware of his or her weaknesses, and so aware of the pain inflicted, that every effort would be made to avoid further contact with the lover as an act of thoughtfulness to the stunned spouse. But instead, the unfaithful spouse argues that the relationship was "only sexual" or was "emotional but not sexual" or some other peculiar description to prove that continued contact with the lover would be okay.

Most victimized spouses intuitively understand that all contact with a lover must end for life. Permanent separation not only helps prevent a renewal of the affair, but it is also a crucial gesture of consideration to someone who has been through ******. What victimized spouse would ever want to know that his or her spouse is seeing or communicating with a former lover at work or in some other activity?

In spite of career sacrifices, friendships, and issues relating to children's schooling, I am adamant in recommending that there be no contact with a former lover for life. For many, that means a move to another state. But to do otherwise fails to recognize the nature of addiction and its cure.

Look at M.S.'s husband. Here he is, thousands of miles from his lover, and yet he still feels compelled to call her. Can you imagine the trouble M.S. would have had separating them if they had not moved? Their move was the best thing that could have happened to their marriage because it not only revealed the affair, but it also set up the conditions that would make ending it possible -- total separation.

We don't know if R.J. still sees his lover, but he says he has broken off all contact. In many cases where a person is still in town, that's hard to prove. But one thing's for sure, if he ever does see his lover, it will put him in a state of perpetual withdrawal from his addiction, and make the resolution of his marriage essentially impossible. In fact, one of the reasons he is not recovering after three months of separation may be that he is not being truthful about the separation.

How should an unfaithful spouse tell his lover that their relationship is over? If left to their own devices, many would take a Caribbean cruise to say their final good-byes. Obviously, that will not do. In fact, I recommend that the final good-bye be in the form of a letter, and not in person or even by telephone.

My advice is to write a final letter in a way that the victimized spouse would agree to send it. It should begin with a statement of how selfish it was to cause those they loved so much pain, and while marital reconciliation cannot completely repay the offense, it's the right thing to do. A statement should be made about how much the unfaithful spouse cares about his spouse and family, and for their protection, has decided to completely end the relationship with the lover. He or she has promised never to see or communicate with the lover again in life, and asks the lover to respect that promise. Nothing should be said about how much the lover will be missed. After the letter is written, the victimized spouse should read and approve it before it is sent.

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[On his exposure and how to handle those people...now that you are ready to work on the marriage, this becomes an internal thing. You just keep things between the two of you. Once you two are together and it is just the two of you (OM is gone), then it is not anyone else's business.

I don't think I was clear.... I meant how do I also handle the people to whom he has exposed ME. I know it will be very hard, I will be judged, looked down upon--you know the whole nine yards-- I guess what I meant by the other post was that I won't be the one saying "Yeah so what I had an A, but look at Mr. Perfect--He's an addict" I would not could not and will not under ANY circumsstance do that. I will need to keep some sort of positive attitude even when I am judged for what I am guilty of or else, I know me, I will get pissy and withdraw from the whole world.

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I knew what you were talking about. Tiny, if you have stopped the affair and are repentent, then what people say about you no longer applies, correct? Their judgement of you would be off base.

The way to handle it is to ignore it. No one need know what goes on between you and your husband. While the affair should have been public knowledge, your marriage should not be. Just smail and say "My husband and I are together and continue to move forward with our marriage." End of discussion. What they say behind your back...well, who cares?

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Of course you'll get some flak with people. Ask your H what he thinks the two of you will say?? I think something along the lines of "Yes, there are things that sometimes happen in marriage, but it's really between my H and I now, and we would appreciate your support during this difficult time as we try to rebuild our lives"

Unfortunately them talking about you and looking down on you- well you kinda brought that on yourself and will have to learn to deal with that somehow. Put it this way, they are going to look down on you and talk about you no matter what so just say what my grandmother used to say about someone talking about her- "All I can say is if they are talking about me, they have a excellent subject."

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I knew what you were talking about. Tiny, if you have stopped the affair and are repentent, then what people say about you no longer applies, correct? Their judgement of you would be off base.

The way to handle it is to ignore it. No one need know what goes on between you and your husband. While the affair should have been public knowledge, your marriage should not be. Just smail and say "My husband and I are together and continue to move forward with our marriage." End of discussion. What they say behind your back...well, who cares?

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I am having a little trouble with this one MM. You know waaaaayyy more about this than I do, I am bearly on track at this point. But if I am to ignore what people say if/when a reconciliation is attempted , why should I not ignore what is being said at this point as well. Who cares if people think I am having an A. To be honest, there were rumors of me and OM at least 3 years prior to any "inappropriate" relationship. Double standard?
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I knew what you were talking about. Tiny, if you have stopped the affair and are repentent, then what people say about you no longer applies, correct? Their judgement of you would be off base.

The way to handle it is to ignore it. No one need know what goes on between you and your husband. While the affair should have been public knowledge, your marriage should not be. Just smail and say "My husband and I are together and continue to move forward with our marriage." End of discussion. What they say behind your back...well, who cares?

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I am having a little trouble with this one MM. You know waaaaayyy more about this than I do, I am bearly on track at this point. But if I am to ignore what people say if/when a reconciliation is attempted , why should I not ignore what is being said at this point as well. Who cares if people think I am having an A. To be honest, there were rumors of me and OM at least 3 years prior to any "inappropriate" relationship. Double standard?
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Not a double standard really. What I was trying to say was that an affair should NEVER be kept secret. Anyone that can put that in the public domain, should do so. It is an improper and immoral relationship and deserves being put out there for ridicule or condemnation.

Your marriage deserves respect and is only the business of you and your husband. The marriage is a proper and moral relationship. Thus, what goes on between the two of you should be kept between the two of you.

On whether people talk about you in either place...well, as was said above...while in the affair, it is proper that people talk about you. But when in your marriage and the affair is gone, then it is improper for them to talk about you.

An example...if in the middle of my wife's affair, someone would come up and make derogatory remarks to her or about her, I would say nothing. But, since that has ended and she is being my wife again, if someone would do that today...even talking about the past affair...well, they might end up on their backside. My WW deserved no protection from me, and no respect from those around us. My wife, on the otherhand, deserves protection and respect.

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Unfortunately them talking about you and looking down on you- well you kinda brought that on yourself and will have to learn to deal with that somehow.

I totally agree, I take full responsiblilty for that. I am just trying to head MY future attitude off at the pass. I can see it coming a mile away. I can hear the comment: "you made it my business when you are telling me 'the A story', now it is all 'a private matter'? Well sc#$w you". That is the attitude I expect to encounter. I am trying to prepare myself for those events so I don't get pi$$y about it and let it negatively effect any progress that may have been made to that point.

I am particularly concerned about his family. As they think he can do no wrong and that I am TOTALLY to blame for the state of the marriage. Nothing else matters, it is ALL my fault and they don't know why on earth their PERFECT son aka the neglecting addict would ever, EVER even consider letting me back in the house, much less to consider reconciliation to me aka the a-having ho that I am (self-naming there, not sure what all I have been called, but just trying to be cute).

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Unfortunately them talking about you and looking down on you- well you kinda brought that on yourself and will have to learn to deal with that somehow.

I totally agree, I take full responsiblilty for that. I am just trying to head MY future attitude off at the pass. I can see it coming a mile away. I can hear the comment: "you made it my business when you are telling me 'the A story', now it is all 'a private matter'? Well sc#$w you". That is the attitude I expect to encounter. I am trying to prepare myself for those events so I don't get pi$$y about it and let it negatively effect any progress that may have been made to that point.

I am particularly concerned about his family. As they think he can do no wrong and that I am TOTALLY to blame for the state of the marriage. Nothing else matters, it is ALL my fault and they don't know why on earth their PERFECT son aka the neglecting addict would ever, EVER even consider letting me back in the house, much less to consider reconciliation to me aka the a-having ho that I am (self-naming there, not sure what all I have been called, but just trying to be cute).

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VERY GOOD POINTS, Tiny!

My wife was, and still to an extent is, worried about how to reintegrate with my family. My family was behind finding out about her affair while I was deployed. The yhired the PI. They helped me get the intel once I got back that was a big part of me getting custody of the kids. so part of her is still ticked off at them (although what did she expect, considering her behavior?).

At first, she said she would never go to another family function or talk to my family. Period. But, I tell you...just last week, our youngest had a baseball game, and who was sitting together behind the backstop? My mother and my wife.

Now, do they have the relationship they had before all of this?No. But my wife and I dont either. Just as my wife and I will take time to build a new relationship, so will her and my family (as well as me and her family).

The number one thing I can do and have done to help this, was after my wife and I decided to reconcile, I called a family meeting. I sat down with all of them and thanked them for their help and support in outting the affair and supporting me in making my wife and OM's life a living he!! while they were in it. But, I told them that I was reconciling with Mrs. Mortarman. Thus, if I have forgiven her and welcomed her back into the family, then they must also. There will be no snide remarks. No more intel gathering missions for me. No shunning my wife. They are to treat her as their sister or daughter in law. Period. I told them that I would enforce this.

You see, it will be up to your husband to protect you from that. It will be a part of yoru reconciling, as you express this to him and a plan is devised where he can do somethign similar to what I did. How would you feel if your husband did this with his family? Would you feel more confident about these things? Would you feel loved? Would you feel like you could rejoin family events in confidence and not have to hang your head or listen to the whispers? Of course. In my case, if my wife came up and said one of my sisters-in-law was talking behind her back...well, she would be getting an ear full out of me. As I said, my WW deserved no respect, no love, no protection. My wife deserves all of that! And she will darn well get it.

Since I instituted this stuff with my family, things have eased slowly. My wife and mother are able to talk again, and to be at family events. None of my family makes any snide comments in mine or my wife's presence anymore. They even have begun to ask if she will be attending Thanksgiving or whatever event is coming up. It has been a slow process...but so has reconciliation between her and I.

Basically, once you have decided to be a wife again, then your husband has to stand up and be the man. I have heard from the ladies that there is something sexy about that!

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Hey Tiny, my H is perfect, too -- never done anything wrong in his life. This just isn't in the eyes of his family - my family thinks so, too. None of them know about the verbal abuse, the late nights out without a single phone call, or the belittling of me in front of other people. I had a horrible crisis involving my Dad, H was not supportive in any way, but my family doesn't know a thing about it. I was too afraid to confide in anyone for fear that it would get turned around on me.

I can only thank heavens that my H didn't expose.

I personally disagree with MM about exposure. I feel sometimes is it counterproductive because some family members/friends/fellow churchgoers whatever don't let things go. But of course certain people of certain faiths feel that things like that are everyone's business.

You might have to just grow a thick skin to deal with the comments. Just come up with a line about "We've had our challenges, but I love H and want to do everything I can to make things right." Say it sweetly and with a sincere smile. Come out looking better than they do. It's hard, I kow, I think you and I have similar personalities (I get pi$$y too!).

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Hey Tiny, my H is perfect, too -- never done anything wrong in his life. This just isn't in the eyes of his family - my family thinks so, too. None of them know about the verbal abuse, the late nights out without a single phone call, or the belittling of me in front of other people. I had a horrible crisis involving my Dad, H was not supportive in any way, but my family doesn't know a thing about it. I was too afraid to confide in anyone for fear that it would get turned around on me.

I can only thank heavens that my H didn't expose.

I personally disagree with MM about exposure. I feel sometimes is it counterproductive because some family members/friends/fellow churchgoers whatever don't let things go. But of course certain people of certain faiths feel that things like that are everyone's business.

You might have to just grow a thick skin to deal with the comments. Just come up with a line about "We've had our challenges, but I love H and want to do everything I can to make things right." Say it sweetly and with a sincere smile. Come out looking better than they do. It's hard, I kow, I think you and I have similar personalities (I get pi$$y too!).

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I agree with you here. But, when I said that exposure is good, I mean that it is good for the affair. It is always good for the affair. As much talk, pressure, ridicule, etc that can come to bear on that relationship is good.

Now, if people hold onto that after the affair is over...that is not good. This is what I was saying. And I said that it is her husband's responsibility to straighten out his family. Once she has decided to be his wife, then his relationship with his wife is more important than his family...even more important than his kids. Thus, he is charged with protecting it and her. So, if somebody wants to hold onto what the WW did, and apply that to his wife...then he needs to make sure that this person either shuts up...or is cut out of any contact with himself or his wife.

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Another note Tiny...

When my wife was in the affair, much was said about her. You know the standard stuff..."wh_ore, slut, etc" Lots of jokes about her, about the fact she picked up a bar bouncer at the gym to have an affair with. Stuff like that. Pretty much the typical white trash jokes. And believe me, she heard them.

While in the affair, they angered her. But at the same time, she was so deep in the fog, that she thought that it was those people that had the problem.

That is until one day she woke up and realized that even though they were being mean, there wasnt something to be said about what they were saying. In many ways, she was all of those things.

While the affair was going on, I allowed these things to be said about her. As long as they werent said around my kids, I didnt care. My WW at the time wasangry at me for not standing up for her, not stopping people from talking about my wife that way. I told her that right then, she wasnt my wife...and much of what they were saying was correct. Man, a nuclear bomb went off then! But, she deserved it.

Fast forward to after she decided to reconcile. Some people that talked that way, tried to do so again after she came home. Well, you could have heard a pin drop in the room. Twice, I walked up to the person (one a friend, the other a brother) and quietly but sternly said that if they ever said anything like that again about my wife, I would be activating their dental plan! Even if I hear about it later. No one will talk about my wife that way, not where I can hear it or know about it.

My family and friends respect my wife again because I respect my wife again. They do so because they love me, and with that comes a respect for my wishes. And my wife deserves the respect she is gettign from everyone around us.

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Come to think of it my family is actually worse than his. Only one of his Aunts that I am worried about. His mom, dad brother ect... all act like nothing ever happened and that I am still home with whole family. I think they all take the thought train of ignore it until it is gone--I think that is where H learned his dealing skills-- he ignored me and I was gone. I can avoid the aunt until everyone else gets used to me being around. My sister hasn't spoke to me since I moved out. I lived with my parents until 6 weeks or so ago, and they were not supportive at all. All my mom would say is that h 'didn't get it'. I don't mean to imply that they should be supportive of the A and that situation, but a little steering me in the 'right' direction would have been well placed. None of them know about the addiction, the neglect, my true unhappiness... all they know is that h had proof there was OM (whom they knew). I never denied it to them, it just wasn't mentioned much. Dad kept telling me I was stupid and crazy adn more than I even want to dredge back up. So upon reflecting on my original question, I guess it was misplaced should be worried about reaction to other people. Maybe, I can hope, family will all continue to ignore all that has happened. The church we attend will be a different story. They would be estatic to see me return home, however they would make it a mission to make me see the error of my ways. To make sure I know "what I have caused". Fellow churchers will be the hardest because they will see the need to gossip even more, no, I know church people don't do that, but you know....

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Sorry, MM, but I personally don't think public ridicule and humiliation is the answer. Singing telegrams, e-mails to entire employee populations within a company, announcing the offense to the church congregation, etc., that we've read about here are a little over the top, IMHO. I can see limited exposure to close friends/relatives who can talk to the offender in a respectful way - that makes more sense to me.

I know I will never measure up to my in-laws. My MIL was a saint (truly!), she and my H worshipped ech other, so he's a saint, too. I'm nothing like my late MIL and my BIL's family won't let me forget it. But they can go pound sand for all I care; I'm not out to impress them.

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Sorry, MM, but I personally don't think public ridicule and humiliation is the answer. Singing telegrams, e-mails to entire employee populations within a company, announcing the offense to the church congregation, etc., that we've read about here are a little over the top, IMHO. I can see limited exposure to close friends/relatives who can talk to the offender in a respectful way - that makes more sense to me.

I know I will never measure up to my in-laws. My MIL was a saint (truly!), she and my H worshipped ech other, so he's a saint, too. I'm nothing like my late MIL and my BIL's family won't let me forget it. But they can go pound sand for all I care; I'm not out to impress them.

I am not proposing billboards. You are correct in the fact that exposure by the BS should be limited. Tiny was talking about family and other close friends that will try to continue to ridicule, not the entire planet. The WS is deserving of ridicule. A spouse is not.

But, for example, the word got out about my wife's affair at our church. Much talk went on. My wife had been so active there, and now everyone stared at her and talekd about her. While the affair was going on, I didnt care. But once it was over, I needed to stop this. Unfortunately, they would not stop. So we changed churches.

But you cant change families, and sometimes close friends. So, you must deal with these people by telling them to back off.

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H denies that he has said anything, even when given proof that he was the source of the rumor. I am not certain what if anything has been said in from of my kids. I know his aunt has had some less than generous remarks in from of my dd who is a very mature 5yo. I also know that H has said negative things to her about me. I have not and will invole my children in a tug of war or name calling of H and told him so. They deserve to be protected. One of the things that began my process was the day before I left was my daughter saying that she did not want to go home.... more on that later

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Come to think of it my family is actually worse than his. Only one of his Aunts that I am worried about. His mom, dad brother ect... all act like nothing ever happened and that I am still home with whole family. I think they all take the thought train of ignore it until it is gone--I think that is where H learned his dealing skills-- he ignored me and I was gone. I can avoid the aunt until everyone else gets used to me being around. My sister hasn't spoke to me since I moved out. I lived with my parents until 6 weeks or so ago, and they were not supportive at all. All my mom would say is that h 'didn't get it'. I don't mean to imply that they should be supportive of the A and that situation, but a little steering me in the 'right' direction would have been well placed. None of them know about the addiction, the neglect, my true unhappiness... all they know is that h had proof there was OM (whom they knew). I never denied it to them, it just wasn't mentioned much. Dad kept telling me I was stupid and crazy adn more than I even want to dredge back up. So upon reflecting on my original question, I guess it was misplaced should be worried about reaction to other people. Maybe, I can hope, family will all continue to ignore all that has happened. The church we attend will be a different story. They would be estatic to see me return home, however they would make it a mission to make me see the error of my ways. To make sure I know "what I have caused". Fellow churchers will be the hardest because they will see the need to gossip even more, no, I know church people don't do that, but you know....

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Again, if there is a problem at church and you cant overcome it, take it to the pastor. If he cannot get it to stop, then change churches.

You are also responsible for yoru family. But yoru husband can help with this also. I did. My MIL kept putting her nose into our business durign the affair and during early recovery. I told my wife to tell her to back out, or that her mother would not be allowed to contact my wife or our family. Her mother got the message.

Your husband must lead. You must let him...sometimes even push him to. This is what this recovery will be about...your husband leading both of you, with your help right by his side...out of this mess and into a different future.

In the end, your family will all die and be buried in different places. Your children will move on and establish families of their own. Friends will move on with their own lives. Other people will find someone new to gossip about.

But you and your husband will live the same life together. You two will die and be buried together. It really is just you and him (and Christ, if the two of you are saved). That is why your marriage is more important than happiness, more important than kids, more important than family, or jobs, or a church. it is the one relationship that was designed to last a lifetime.

Everything else pales in comparison.

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One thing I asked H was to talk to me. I had/have a real problem with him talking to EVERYBODY he saw and knew about this. he even went so far as to seek out one of my co-workers at co-w's 2nd job to expose and rumor about me and OM. Same C-w on Friday before I moved out on Sunday was telling me how good a friend I was adn that I was "family" loved me like the sis he never had... would do anything for me... now co-w won't even come on the same floor as me and turns his head when I am in the vacinity. That is hypocritical as co-w is close friends with OM and continues to pretend to OM that he knows nothing and is still best friends with him. twisted I know, but true. The problem is why would h talk to the planet about ALL our problems (except his addiction of course) and would not discuss any of it with me....

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[quoteYour husband must lead. You must let him...sometimes even push him to. This is what this recovery will be about...your husband leading both of you, with your help right by his side...out of this mess and into a different future.

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HOW?!!?!?! HOW?!?!?!? That is one of the things I want... for him to take the lead, or at least part of it. I don't know how to get that point across, obviously everything I have done to date is wrong. He is not very outgoing and will not stand up for me, he will wait on me to do it for myself. I am very outspoken, so he tends to blend in. I have kept my mouth closed and it does not good at all. What direction do you suggest I take to get him to be the leader?

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One thing I asked H was to talk to me. I had/have a real problem with him talking to EVERYBODY he saw and knew about this. he even went so far as to seek out one of my co-workers at co-w's 2nd job to expose and rumor about me and OM. Same C-w on Friday before I moved out on Sunday was telling me how good a friend I was adn that I was "family" loved me like the sis he never had... would do anything for me... now co-w won't even come on the same floor as me and turns his head when I am in the vacinity. That is hypocritical as co-w is close friends with OM and continues to pretend to OM that he knows nothing and is still best friends with him. twisted I know, but true. The problem is why would h talk to the planet about ALL our problems (except his addiction of course) and would not discuss any of it with me....

Tiny

Of course that is hypocritical...and wrong. But like I said, it really isnt your concern anymore. That co-worker will be gone someday, out of your life. Your concern is your husband.

Why would he not discuss it with you? I dont know. These are the things you and him need to do (after both of you commit to the marriage again) in counseling. To getting out where you BOTH went wrong, and the counselor should be helpful in providing a plan for both of you to get these thigns right. Steve Harley is brillian at this, and I would recommend him highly. I havent had a session with him in two years, but my wife and I are still working off the plan he laid out back then...and it is working.

Again, this will be a slow process. Your husband and you did not get to this point overnight. That is why I said that this takes truth and commitment. The rest will come with time.

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